From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Sultan Alsawaf <sultanxda@gmail.com>
Cc: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>
Subject: Re: Linux messages full of `random: get_random_u32 called from`
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 23:18:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180429211855.GA17525@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180429202033.ysmc42mj2rrk3h7p@sultan-box>
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On Sun 2018-04-29 13:20:33, Sultan Alsawaf wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2018 at 08:41:01PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Umm. No. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xneBjc8z0DE
>
> Okay, but /dev/urandom isn't a solution to this problem because it isn't usable
> until crng init is complete, so it suffers from the same init lag as
> /dev/random.
So -- I'm pretty sure systemd and friends should be using
/dev/urandom. Maybe gpg wants to use /dev/random. _Maybe_.
[ 2.948192] random: systemd: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes
read)
[ 2.953526] systemd[1]: systemd 215 running in system mode. (+PAM
+AUDIT +SELINUX +IMA +SYSVINIT +LIBCRYPTSETUP +GCRYPT +ACL +XZ
-SECCOMP -APPARMOR)
[ 2.980278] systemd[1]: Detected architecture 'x86'.
[ 3.115072] usb 5-2: New USB device found, idVendor=0483,
idProduct=2016, bcdDevice= 0.01
[ 3.119633] usb 5-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=0
[ 3.124147] usb 5-2: Product: Biometric Coprocessor
[ 3.128621] usb 5-2: Manufacturer: STMicroelectronics
[ 3.163839] systemd[1]: Failed to insert module 'ipv6'
[ 3.181266] systemd[1]: Set hostname to <amd>.
[ 3.267243] random: systemd-sysv-ge: uninitialized urandom read (16
bytes read)
[ 3.669590] random: systemd-sysv-ge: uninitialized urandom read (16
bytes read)
[ 3.696242] random: systemd: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes
read)
[ 3.700066] random: systemd: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes
read)
[ 3.703716] random: systemd: uninitialized urandom read (16 bytes
read)
Anyway, urandom should need to be seeded once, and then provide random
data forever... which is not impression I get from the dmesg output
above. Boot clearly proceeds... somehow. So now I'm confused.
Best regards,
Pavel
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-26 4:11 Linux messages full of `random: get_random_u32 called from` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-26 5:00 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-26 5:05 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-26 7:32 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-26 15:17 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-26 19:25 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-26 20:22 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-26 20:47 ` Christian Brauner
2018-04-27 0:00 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-27 15:38 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-04-27 19:14 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-26 23:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-27 5:20 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-27 20:10 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-27 22:59 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-29 14:32 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-29 17:05 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-29 18:41 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-29 20:20 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-29 21:18 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2018-04-29 21:34 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-29 22:05 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-29 22:26 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-29 22:43 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-04-29 22:49 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-30 0:11 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-30 4:34 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-30 16:11 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 19:53 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-29 22:43 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-30 0:32 ` Laura Abbott
2018-04-30 21:12 ` Jeremy Cline
2018-05-01 11:52 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-01 12:55 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-01 22:35 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-02 0:02 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-02 12:09 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-02 16:26 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-02 17:49 ` Laura Abbott
2018-05-02 22:25 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-03 6:19 ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-03 12:23 ` Justin Forbes
2018-05-02 0:43 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-05-02 0:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-02 1:11 ` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-05-20 3:37 ` [lkp-robot] [Linux messages full of `random] 125bac9e15: stress-ng.chdir.ops_per_sec 38.8% improvement kernel test robot
2018-04-29 18:30 ` Linux messages full of `random: get_random_u32 called from` Sultan Alsawaf
2018-04-29 20:08 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-18 1:27 ` Trent Piepho
2018-05-18 2:32 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-18 22:56 ` Trent Piepho
2018-05-18 23:22 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-21 18:39 ` Trent Piepho
2018-04-29 14:29 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <1524676526.3280.40.camel@armitage.org.uk>
2018-04-25 20:28 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
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2018-04-24 11:48 Paul Menzel
2018-04-24 13:56 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-24 14:30 ` Paul Menzel
2018-04-24 15:49 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-24 15:56 ` Paul Menzel
2018-04-25 7:41 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-26 3:48 ` Paul Menzel
2018-04-29 14:22 ` Pavel Machek
2018-04-29 23:02 ` Dave Jones
2018-04-29 23:07 ` Dave Jones
2018-04-30 0:21 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-26 5:51 ` Pavel Machek
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