From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: nouveau-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
Russell King <linux-I+IVW8TIWO2tmTQ+vhA3Yw@public.gmane.org>,
dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
Daniel Vetter <daniel-/w4YWyX8dFk@public.gmane.org>,
linux-tegra-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] dma-mapping: Introduce dma_iommu_detach_device() API
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:12:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180430121226.GA6487@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e549979d-9f53-a329-da1a-ed5139958762-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:41:52PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 30/04/18 12:02, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 02:11:36PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:10:48PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > From: Thierry Reding <treding-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >
> > > > > The dma_iommu_detach_device() API can be used by drivers to forcibly
> > > > > detach a device from an IOMMU that architecture code might have attached
> > > > > to. This is useful for drivers that need explicit control over the IOMMU
> > > > > using the IOMMU API directly.
> > > >
> > > > Given that no one else implements it making it a generic API seems
> > > > rather confusing. For now I'd rename it to
> > > > arm_dma_iommu_detach_device() and only implement it in arm.
> > >
> > > That'd be suboptimal because this code is used on both 32-bit and 64-bit
> > > ARM. If we make the function 32-bit ARM specific then the driver code
> > > would need to use an #ifdef to make sure compilation doesn't break on
> > > 64-bit ARM.
> >
> > Do you still want me to make this ARM specific? While I haven't
> > encountered this issue on 64-bit ARM yet, I think it would happen there
> > as well, under the right circumstances. I could take a shot at
> > implementing the equivalent there (which means essentially implementing
> > it for drivers/iommu/dma-iommu.c and calling that from 64-bit ARM code).
>
> It sounds like things are getting a bit backwards here: iommu-dma should
> have nothing to do with this, since if you've explicitly attached the device
> to your own IOMMU domain then you're already bypassing everything it knows
> about and has control over. Arch code calling into iommu-dma to do something
> which makes arch code not use iommu-dma makes very little sense.
My understanding is that iommu-dma will set up an IOMMU domain at device
probe time anyway. So even if attaching to an own IOMMU domain will end
up bypassing iommu-dma, we'd still want to clear up the IOMMU domain and
any associated resources, right?
Thierry
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From: thierry.reding@gmail.com (Thierry Reding)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 2/5] dma-mapping: Introduce dma_iommu_detach_device() API
Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2018 14:12:26 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180430121226.GA6487@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e549979d-9f53-a329-da1a-ed5139958762@arm.com>
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 12:41:52PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 30/04/18 12:02, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 02:11:36PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 08:19:34AM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 12:10:48PM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > > > > From: Thierry Reding <treding@nvidia.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > The dma_iommu_detach_device() API can be used by drivers to forcibly
> > > > > detach a device from an IOMMU that architecture code might have attached
> > > > > to. This is useful for drivers that need explicit control over the IOMMU
> > > > > using the IOMMU API directly.
> > > >
> > > > Given that no one else implements it making it a generic API seems
> > > > rather confusing. For now I'd rename it to
> > > > arm_dma_iommu_detach_device() and only implement it in arm.
> > >
> > > That'd be suboptimal because this code is used on both 32-bit and 64-bit
> > > ARM. If we make the function 32-bit ARM specific then the driver code
> > > would need to use an #ifdef to make sure compilation doesn't break on
> > > 64-bit ARM.
> >
> > Do you still want me to make this ARM specific? While I haven't
> > encountered this issue on 64-bit ARM yet, I think it would happen there
> > as well, under the right circumstances. I could take a shot at
> > implementing the equivalent there (which means essentially implementing
> > it for drivers/iommu/dma-iommu.c and calling that from 64-bit ARM code).
>
> It sounds like things are getting a bit backwards here: iommu-dma should
> have nothing to do with this, since if you've explicitly attached the device
> to your own IOMMU domain then you're already bypassing everything it knows
> about and has control over. Arch code calling into iommu-dma to do something
> which makes arch code not use iommu-dma makes very little sense.
My understanding is that iommu-dma will set up an IOMMU domain at device
probe time anyway. So even if attaching to an own IOMMU domain will end
up bypassing iommu-dma, we'd still want to clear up the IOMMU domain and
any associated resources, right?
Thierry
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-25 10:10 [PATCH v2 1/5] drm/nouveau: tegra: Detach from ARM DMA/IOMMU mapping Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20180425101051.15349-1-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 10:10 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] dma-mapping: Introduce dma_iommu_detach_device() API Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20180425101051.15349-2-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 15:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 15:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425151934.GC16075-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 12:11 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-26 12:11 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-30 11:02 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-30 11:02 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-30 11:41 ` Robin Murphy
2018-04-30 11:41 ` Robin Murphy
[not found] ` <e549979d-9f53-a329-da1a-ed5139958762-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-30 12:12 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2018-04-30 12:12 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-30 12:49 ` Robin Murphy
2018-04-30 12:49 ` Robin Murphy
2018-04-25 10:10 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] ARM: dma-mapping: Implement arch_iommu_detach_device() Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20180425101051.15349-3-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 15:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 15:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425152049.GD16075-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 12:14 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-26 12:14 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 10:10 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] drm/nouveau: tegra: Use dma_iommu_detach_device() Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 10:10 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] ARM: Unconditionally enable ARM_DMA_USE_IOMMU Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
[not found] ` <20180425101051.15349-5-thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 10:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 10:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2018-04-25 15:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 15:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 15:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] drm/nouveau: tegra: Detach from ARM DMA/IOMMU mapping Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-25 15:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20180425151815.GB16075-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 12:09 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-26 12:09 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-25 15:28 ` Jordan Crouse
2018-04-25 15:28 ` Jordan Crouse
[not found] ` <20180425152849.GA2447-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 12:41 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-26 12:41 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-26 12:59 ` Mikko Perttunen
2018-04-26 12:59 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <fd6e0d90-7614-296b-2927-7b2745e8fbde-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 13:14 ` Thierry Reding
2018-04-26 13:14 ` Thierry Reding
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