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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	peterz@infradead.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, Morten.Rasmussen@arm.com,
	viresh.kumar@linaro.org, valentin.schneider@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 05/10] cpufreq/schedutil: get max utilization
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 10:51:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180530085143.GA3320@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180530083715.GB2174@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 30/05/18 09:37, Quentin Perret wrote:
> On Tuesday 29 May 2018 at 11:52:03 (+0200), Juri Lelli wrote:
> > On 29/05/18 09:40, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > > Hi Vincent,
> > > 
> > > On Friday 25 May 2018 at 15:12:26 (+0200), Vincent Guittot wrote:
> > > > Now that we have both the dl class bandwidth requirement and the dl class
> > > > utilization, we can use the max of the 2 values when agregating the
> > > > utilization of the CPU.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  kernel/sched/sched.h | 6 +++++-
> > > >  1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/kernel/sched/sched.h b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> > > > index 4526ba6..0eb07a8 100644
> > > > --- a/kernel/sched/sched.h
> > > > +++ b/kernel/sched/sched.h
> > > > @@ -2194,7 +2194,11 @@ static inline void cpufreq_update_util(struct rq *rq, unsigned int flags) {}
> > > >  #ifdef CONFIG_CPU_FREQ_GOV_SCHEDUTIL
> > > >  static inline unsigned long cpu_util_dl(struct rq *rq)
> > > >  {
> > > > -	return (rq->dl.running_bw * SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE) >> BW_SHIFT;
> > > > +	unsigned long util = (rq->dl.running_bw * SCHED_CAPACITY_SCALE) >> BW_SHIFT;
> > > > +
> > > > +	util = max_t(unsigned long, util, READ_ONCE(rq->avg_dl.util_avg));
> > > 
> > > Would it make sense to use a UTIL_EST version of that signal here ? I
> > > don't think that would make sense for the RT class with your patch-set
> > > since you only really use the blocked part of the signal for RT IIUC,
> > > but would that work for DL ?
> > 
> > Well, UTIL_EST for DL looks pretty much what we already do by computing
> > utilization based on dl.running_bw. That's why I was thinking of using
> > that as a starting point for dl.util_avg decay phase.
> 
> Hmmm I see your point, but running_bw and the util_avg are fundamentally
> different ... I mean, the util_avg doesn't know about the period, which is
> an issue in itself I guess ...
> 
> If you have a long running DL task (say 100ms runtime) with a long period
> (say 1s), the running_bw should represent ~1/10 of the CPU capacity, but
> the util_avg can go quite high, which means that you might end up
> executing this task at max OPP. So if we really want to drive OPPs like
> that for deadline, a util_est-like version of this util_avg signal
> should help. Now, you can also argue that going to max OPP for a task
> that _we know_ uses 1/10 of the CPU capacity isn't right ...

Yep, that's my point. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-30  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-25 13:12 [PATCH v5 00/10] track CPU utilization Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 01/10] sched/pelt: Move pelt related code in a dedicated file Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 14:26   ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-25 16:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-29  8:21       ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-25 18:04     ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-29 14:55       ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-29 15:02         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-29 15:04           ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 02/10] sched/rt: add rt_rq utilization tracking Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 15:54   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-29 13:29     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30  9:32       ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30 10:06         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 11:01           ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30 14:39             ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 03/10] cpufreq/schedutil: add rt " Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30  7:03   ` Viresh Kumar
2018-05-30  8:23     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30  9:40   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30  9:53     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 16:46   ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-31  8:46     ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-01 16:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-01 17:23         ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-04 10:17           ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-04 15:16             ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 04/10] sched/dl: add dl_rq " Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 10:50   ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-30 11:51     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 05/10] cpufreq/schedutil: get max utilization Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 10:12   ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-28 14:57     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 15:22       ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-28 16:34         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-31 10:27           ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-05-31 13:02             ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-01 13:53               ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-01 17:45                 ` Joel Fernandes
2018-06-04  6:41                   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-04  7:04                     ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-04  7:14                       ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-04 10:12                         ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-04 12:35                           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-29  5:08     ` Joel Fernandes
2018-05-29  6:31       ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-29  6:48         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-29  9:47           ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-29  8:40   ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-29  9:52     ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-30  8:37       ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-30  8:51         ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 06/10] sched: remove rt and dl from sched_avg Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 07/10] sched/irq: add irq utilization tracking Vincent Guittot
2018-05-30 15:55   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-05-30 18:45     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-31 16:54       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-06 16:06         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-07  8:29           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-07  8:44             ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-07  9:06               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 08/10] cpufreq/schedutil: take into account interrupt Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 10:41   ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-28 12:06     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-05-28 12:37       ` Juri Lelli
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 09/10] sched: remove rt_avg code Vincent Guittot
2018-05-25 13:12 ` [PATCH v5 10/10] proc/sched: remove unused sched_time_avg_ms Vincent Guittot
2018-06-04 16:50 ` [PATCH v5 00/10] track CPU utilization Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-04 17:13   ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-04 18:08   ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 14:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-05 15:03       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-05 15:38       ` Patrick Bellasi
2018-06-05 22:27         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-06  9:44       ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06  9:59         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-06 10:02           ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-06 10:12           ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05  8:36 ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 10:57   ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 11:59     ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 13:12       ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 13:18         ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 13:52           ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 13:55             ` Vincent Guittot
2018-06-05 14:09               ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 14:21                 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 12:11     ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-05 13:05       ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 13:15         ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-05 14:01           ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-05 14:13             ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-06 13:05               ` Claudio Scordino
2018-06-06 13:20                 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 13:53                   ` Claudio Scordino
2018-06-06 14:10                     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 21:05                   ` luca abeni
2018-06-07  8:25                     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 20:53                 ` luca abeni

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