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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: "Moger, Babu" <Babu.Moger@amd.com>
Cc: "geoff@hostfission.com" <geoff@hostfission.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"kash@tripleback.net" <kash@tripleback.net>,
	"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
	"rth@twiddle.net" <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 3/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT feature on AMD EPYC CPU
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:49:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613184928.GI7451@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR12MB24715894687B9D55A47422A2957E0@DM5PR12MB2471.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:21:58PM +0000, Moger, Babu wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eduardo Habkost [mailto:ehabkost@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 1:18 PM
> > To: Moger, Babu <Babu.Moger@amd.com>
> > Cc: mst@redhat.com; marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com; pbonzini@redhat.com;
> > rth@twiddle.net; mtosatti@redhat.com; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> > kvm@vger.kernel.org; kash@tripleback.net; geoff@hostfission.com; Jiri
> > Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 3/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT feature on AMD EPYC
> > CPU
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:10:30PM +0000, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Eduardo Habkost [mailto:ehabkost@redhat.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:18 PM
> > > > To: Moger, Babu <Babu.Moger@amd.com>
> > > > Cc: mst@redhat.com; marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com;
> > pbonzini@redhat.com;
> > > > rth@twiddle.net; mtosatti@redhat.com; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> > > > kvm@vger.kernel.org; kash@tripleback.net; geoff@hostfission.com; Jiri
> > > > Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 3/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT feature on AMD EPYC
> > > > CPU
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 04:52:18PM +0000, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > > What do you think our options are here?
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we drop automatic topoext completely and move forward?
> > > > > What are your thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Let's drop automatic topoext by now, and see if we find solutions
> > > > later.  I don't want to hold the rest of the patches because of
> > > > this.
> > >
> > > Ok. I will drop topoext.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking we could simply make kvm_arch_get_supported_cpuid()
> > > > always return TOPOEXT on AMD CPUs, because the feature flag don't
> > > > really depend on any KVM code to work (is that correct?).
> > >
> > > Yes, that is correct. I don't see any dependent code on TOPOEXT in KVM
> > driver.
> > >
> > > Ok. Let me add TOPOEXT flag for all the AMD cpus and see how it goes.
> > 
> > Hmm, this could actually solve all of our problems, then:
> > 
> > We can forget about auto-topoext: just add TOPOEXT in
> > kvm_arch_get_supported_cpuid(), add TOPOEXT unconditionally to
> > the CPU models where you are interested into (EPYC only?), and
> > add topoext=off to pc-2.12 compat_props.
> > 
> 
> Ok Sure.

Sorry, I forgot we still need to decide what to do if TOPOEXT is
enabled in the CPU model (or command-line) but the -smp options
are not compatible with it.

In other words, what should guest see on CPUID if using:

"-machine pc-q35-3.0 -cpu EPYC -smp 64,cores=64"
or:
"-machine pc-q35-3.0 -cpu Opteron_G5,+topoext -smp 64,cores=64"

I wonder what would happen if we just return zeroes on
CPUID[0x800001E] if !topology_supports_topoext(), instead of
trying to clear/set TOPOEXT depending on the -smp option?  It
would make things much simpler for QEMU and libvirt.

-- 
Eduardo

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: "Moger, Babu" <Babu.Moger@amd.com>
Cc: "mst@redhat.com" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"rth@twiddle.net" <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"mtosatti@redhat.com" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kash@tripleback.net" <kash@tripleback.net>,
	"geoff@hostfission.com" <geoff@hostfission.com>,
	Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v13 3/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT feature on AMD EPYC CPU
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:49:28 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180613184928.GI7451@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DM5PR12MB24715894687B9D55A47422A2957E0@DM5PR12MB2471.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:21:58PM +0000, Moger, Babu wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eduardo Habkost [mailto:ehabkost@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 1:18 PM
> > To: Moger, Babu <Babu.Moger@amd.com>
> > Cc: mst@redhat.com; marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com; pbonzini@redhat.com;
> > rth@twiddle.net; mtosatti@redhat.com; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> > kvm@vger.kernel.org; kash@tripleback.net; geoff@hostfission.com; Jiri
> > Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 3/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT feature on AMD EPYC
> > CPU
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:10:30PM +0000, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Eduardo Habkost [mailto:ehabkost@redhat.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2018 12:18 PM
> > > > To: Moger, Babu <Babu.Moger@amd.com>
> > > > Cc: mst@redhat.com; marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com;
> > pbonzini@redhat.com;
> > > > rth@twiddle.net; mtosatti@redhat.com; qemu-devel@nongnu.org;
> > > > kvm@vger.kernel.org; kash@tripleback.net; geoff@hostfission.com; Jiri
> > > > Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 3/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT feature on AMD EPYC
> > > > CPU
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 04:52:18PM +0000, Moger, Babu wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > > What do you think our options are here?
> > > > >
> > > > > Should we drop automatic topoext completely and move forward?
> > > > > What are your thoughts?
> > > >
> > > > Let's drop automatic topoext by now, and see if we find solutions
> > > > later.  I don't want to hold the rest of the patches because of
> > > > this.
> > >
> > > Ok. I will drop topoext.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm thinking we could simply make kvm_arch_get_supported_cpuid()
> > > > always return TOPOEXT on AMD CPUs, because the feature flag don't
> > > > really depend on any KVM code to work (is that correct?).
> > >
> > > Yes, that is correct. I don't see any dependent code on TOPOEXT in KVM
> > driver.
> > >
> > > Ok. Let me add TOPOEXT flag for all the AMD cpus and see how it goes.
> > 
> > Hmm, this could actually solve all of our problems, then:
> > 
> > We can forget about auto-topoext: just add TOPOEXT in
> > kvm_arch_get_supported_cpuid(), add TOPOEXT unconditionally to
> > the CPU models where you are interested into (EPYC only?), and
> > add topoext=off to pc-2.12 compat_props.
> > 
> 
> Ok Sure.

Sorry, I forgot we still need to decide what to do if TOPOEXT is
enabled in the CPU model (or command-line) but the -smp options
are not compatible with it.

In other words, what should guest see on CPUID if using:

"-machine pc-q35-3.0 -cpu EPYC -smp 64,cores=64"
or:
"-machine pc-q35-3.0 -cpu Opteron_G5,+topoext -smp 64,cores=64"

I wonder what would happen if we just return zeroes on
CPUID[0x800001E] if !topology_supports_topoext(), instead of
trying to clear/set TOPOEXT depending on the -smp option?  It
would make things much simpler for QEMU and libvirt.

-- 
Eduardo

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-13 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-08 22:56 [PATCH v13 0/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT to support hyperthreading on AMD CPU Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] i386: Add support for CPUID_8000_001E for AMD Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56   ` [Qemu-devel] " Babu Moger
2018-06-11 20:54   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 20:54     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:02     ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 21:02       ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2020-06-02 17:52   ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-06-02 17:52     ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-06-03 23:57     ` Babu Moger
2020-06-03 23:57       ` Babu Moger
2020-06-04 14:06     ` Babu Moger
2020-06-04 14:06       ` Babu Moger
2020-06-04 20:54       ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-06-04 20:54         ` Eduardo Habkost
2020-06-05 16:21         ` Babu Moger
2020-06-05 16:21           ` Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56 ` [PATCH v13 2/5] i386: Introduce auto_topoext bit to manage topoext Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56   ` [Qemu-devel] " Babu Moger
2018-06-11 20:25   ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 20:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 20:46     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 20:46       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 20:59       ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 20:59         ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 21:05       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:05         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:20         ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 21:20           ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-08 22:56 ` [PATCH v13 3/5] i386: Enable TOPOEXT feature on AMD EPYC CPU Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56   ` [Qemu-devel] " Babu Moger
2018-06-11 20:50   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 20:50     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:01     ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 21:01       ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 21:10     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:10       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-12 16:29       ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-12 16:29         ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-12 17:40         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-12 17:40           ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-12 18:38           ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-12 18:38             ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-12 19:05             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-12 19:05               ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-12 19:46               ` Babu Moger
2018-06-12 19:46                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Babu Moger
2018-06-13 16:52                 ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 16:52                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 17:18                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-13 17:18                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-13 18:10                     ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 18:10                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 18:12                       ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 18:12                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 18:17                       ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-13 18:17                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-13 18:21                         ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 18:21                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-13 18:49                           ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2018-06-13 18:49                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-14  0:58                             ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-14  0:58                               ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-08 22:56 ` [PATCH v13 4/5] i386: Verify and enable topoext feature if supported Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56   ` [Qemu-devel] " Babu Moger
2018-06-11 20:51   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 20:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-06-11 21:01     ` Moger, Babu
2018-06-11 21:01       ` [Qemu-devel] " Moger, Babu
2018-06-08 22:56 ` [PATCH v13 5/5] i386: Remove generic SMT thread check Babu Moger
2018-06-08 22:56   ` [Qemu-devel] " Babu Moger

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