From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Jiaxun Yang <jiaxun.yang@flygoat.com>
Cc: linux-mips@linux-mips.org,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>, 陈华才 <chenhc@lemote.com>,
"Paul Burton" <paul.burton@mips.com>,
"Ralf Baechle" <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
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"David Howells" <dhowells@redhat.com>,
"Jade Alglave" <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>,
"Luc Maranget" <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Akira Yokosawa" <akiyks@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] MIPS: implement smp_cond_load_acquire() for Loongson-3
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 11:21:06 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180711102106.GG13963@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5471216.FKXZRxKFUI@flygoat-ry>
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 06:05:51PM +0800, Jiaxun Yang wrote:
> On 2018-7-10 Tue at 20:17:27,Peter Zijlstra Wrote:
>
> Hi Peter
> Since Huacai unable to send email via client, I'm going to reply for him
>
> > Sure.. we all got that far. And no, this isn't the _real_ problem. This
> > is a manifestation of the problem.
> >
> > The problem is that your SFB is broken (per the Linux requirements). We
> > require that stores will become visible. That is, they must not
> > indefinitely (for whatever reason) stay in the store buffer.
> >
> > > I don't think this is a hardware bug, in design, SFB will flushed to
> > > L1 cache in three cases:
> > >
> > > 1, data in SFB is full (be a complete cache line);
> > > 2, there is a subsequent read access in the same cache line;
> > > 3, a 'sync' instruction is executed.
> >
> > And I think this _is_ a hardware bug. You just designed the bug instead
> > of it being by accident.
> Yes, we understood that this hardware feature is not supported by LKML,
> so it should be a hardware bug for LKML.
> >
> > It doesn't happen an _any_ other architecture except that dodgy
> > ARM11MPCore part. Linux hard relies on stores to become available
> > _eventually_.
> >
> > Still, even with the rules above, the best work-around is still the very
> > same cpu_relax() hack.
>
> As you say, SFB makes Loongson not fully SMP-coherent.
> However, modify cpu_relax can solve the current problem,
> but not so straight forward. On the other hand, providing a Loongson-specific
> WRITE_ONCE looks more reasonable, because it the eliminate the "non-cohrency".
> So we can solve the bug from the root.
Curious, but why is it not straight-forward to hack cpu_relax()? If you try
to hack WRITE_ONCE, you also need to hack atomic_set, atomic64_set and all
the places that should be using WRITE_ONCE but aren't ;~)
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-11 10:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-09 2:26 [PATCH V2] MIPS: implement smp_cond_load_acquire() for Loongson-3 Huacai Chen
2018-07-09 16:49 ` Paul Burton
2018-07-10 4:26 ` Huacai Chen
2018-07-10 9:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-10 10:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-10 11:45 ` 陈华才
2018-07-10 12:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-10 16:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-10 17:10 ` Paul Burton
2018-07-10 17:10 ` Paul Burton
2018-07-10 17:10 ` Paul Burton
2018-07-11 10:04 ` David Laight
2018-07-11 10:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 10:05 ` Jiaxun Yang
2018-07-11 10:21 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2018-07-11 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-07-11 11:46 ` David Laight
2018-07-11 9:43 ` Will Deacon
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