From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>, Kumar Gala <kumar.gala@linaro.org>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org,
Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@arm.com>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: DT case sensitivity
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 07:36:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180823123650.GT24439@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18175413a0148f7859ab36ed9715dce7a598f318.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:29:01AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 20:26 -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:14 PM Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> > <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 19:47 -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > The default DT string handling in the kernel is node names and
> > > > compatibles are case insensitive and property names are case sensitive
> > > > (Sparc is the the only variation and is opposite). It seems only PPC
> > > > (and perhaps only Power Macs?) needs to support case insensitive
> > > > comparisons. It was probably a mistake to follow PPC for new arches
> > > > and we should have made everything case sensitive from the start. So I
> > > > have a few questions for the DT historians. :)
> > >
> > > Open Firmware itself is insensitive.
> >
> > Doesn't it depend on the implementation? Otherwise, how is Sparc different?
>
> Not sure ...
The standard requires case-sensitive.
> Forth itself is insensitive for words
Not even. http://forth.sourceforge.net/std/dpans/dpans3.htm#3.3.1.2
(Most non-ancient implementations are though).
> but maybe not for string comparisons.
Only COMPARE is standardised, and that is case-sensitive comparison. Many
systems have other words to do case-insensitive comparisons, or words where
some runtime flag determines the case-sensitivity.
Btw. A node name in Open Firmware is generically
driver-name@unit-address:device-arguments
where driver-name is the part that is in the "name" property; this whole
case-sensitivity business is even worse for FDT, where you also treat the
unit address as part of the name. In real Open Firmware the address is
compared *as a number* (or as a few numbers), so it is naturally case-
insensitive (it does not care if you write 01a0 or 01A0, or 1a0 or 000001a0
etc.)
Segher
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From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
Kumar Gala <kumar.gala@linaro.org>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, devicetree-spec@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
Grant Likely <grant.likely@arm.com>,
Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>,
David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Subject: Re: DT case sensitivity
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 07:36:50 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180823123650.GT24439@gate.crashing.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18175413a0148f7859ab36ed9715dce7a598f318.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 11:29:01AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 20:26 -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 8:14 PM Benjamin Herrenschmidt
> > <benh@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 2018-08-22 at 19:47 -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
> > > > The default DT string handling in the kernel is node names and
> > > > compatibles are case insensitive and property names are case sensitive
> > > > (Sparc is the the only variation and is opposite). It seems only PPC
> > > > (and perhaps only Power Macs?) needs to support case insensitive
> > > > comparisons. It was probably a mistake to follow PPC for new arches
> > > > and we should have made everything case sensitive from the start. So I
> > > > have a few questions for the DT historians. :)
> > >
> > > Open Firmware itself is insensitive.
> >
> > Doesn't it depend on the implementation? Otherwise, how is Sparc different?
>
> Not sure ...
The standard requires case-sensitive.
> Forth itself is insensitive for words
Not even. http://forth.sourceforge.net/std/dpans/dpans3.htm#3.3.1.2
(Most non-ancient implementations are though).
> but maybe not for string comparisons.
Only COMPARE is standardised, and that is case-sensitive comparison. Many
systems have other words to do case-insensitive comparisons, or words where
some runtime flag determines the case-sensitivity.
Btw. A node name in Open Firmware is generically
driver-name@unit-address:device-arguments
where driver-name is the part that is in the "name" property; this whole
case-sensitivity business is even worse for FDT, where you also treat the
unit address as part of the name. In real Open Firmware the address is
compared *as a number* (or as a few numbers), so it is naturally case-
insensitive (it does not care if you write 01a0 or 01A0, or 1a0 or 000001a0
etc.)
Segher
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-23 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-23 0:47 DT case sensitivity Rob Herring
2018-08-23 1:03 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 1:26 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-23 1:26 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-23 1:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 1:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 9:02 ` Grant Likely
2018-08-23 9:02 ` Grant Likely
2018-08-23 11:43 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-23 11:43 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-23 11:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 11:47 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 11:56 ` Grant Likely
2018-08-23 11:56 ` Grant Likely
2018-08-23 12:08 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-23 12:08 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-23 12:48 ` Grant Likely
2018-08-23 12:48 ` Grant Likely
2018-08-23 12:36 ` Segher Boessenkool [this message]
2018-08-23 12:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-08-24 15:14 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-24 15:14 ` Rob Herring
2018-08-24 16:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-08-24 16:52 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-08-23 12:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-08-23 12:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-08-23 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 21:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-24 5:39 ` Michael Ellerman
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