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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/10] iommu/sva: Bind process address spaces to devices
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:01:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180926110103.45b57f75@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7cbd503a-c79e-3c40-7388-ce6c23f7f536-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:07:47 +0100
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com> wrote:

> On 23/09/2018 04:05, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 09/21/2018 01:00 AM, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:  
> >> Add bind() and unbind() operations to the IOMMU API. Bind()
> >> returns a PASID that drivers can program in hardware, to let their
> >> devices access an mm. This patch only adds skeletons for the
> >> device driver API, most of the implementation is still missing.  
> > 
> > Is it possible that a malicious process can unbind a pasid which is
> > used by another normal process?  
> 
> Yes, it's up to the device driver that calls unbind() to check that
> the caller is allowed to unbind this PASID. We can't do it ourselves
> since unbind() could also be called from a kernel thread for example
> from a cleanup function in some workqueue, outside the context of the
> process to unbind.
> 
I am wondering if we can avoid the complexity around permission
checking by simply _only_ allow bind/unbind() on current mm? what would
be the missing use cases if we bind current only?
It can also avoid other race such as unbind and mmu_notifier release
call.

> Jean
> 
> > 
> > It might happen in below sequence:
> > 
> > 
> > Process A                       Process B
> > =========                       =========
> > iommu_sva_init_device(dev)
> > iommu_sva_bind_device(dev)
> > ....
> > device access mm of A with
> > #PASID returned above
> > ....
> >                                 iommu_sva_unbind_device(dev, #PASID)
> > ....
> > [unrecoverable errors]
> > 
> > I didn't have a thorough consideration of this. Sorry if this has
> > been prevented.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Lu Baolu  

[Jacob Pan]
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From: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
To: Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 02/10] iommu/sva: Bind process address spaces to devices
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 11:01:03 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180926110103.45b57f75@jacob-builder> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7cbd503a-c79e-3c40-7388-ce6c23f7f536@arm.com>

On Mon, 24 Sep 2018 13:07:47 +0100
Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe.brucker@arm.com> wrote:

> On 23/09/2018 04:05, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On 09/21/2018 01:00 AM, Jean-Philippe Brucker wrote:  
> >> Add bind() and unbind() operations to the IOMMU API. Bind()
> >> returns a PASID that drivers can program in hardware, to let their
> >> devices access an mm. This patch only adds skeletons for the
> >> device driver API, most of the implementation is still missing.  
> > 
> > Is it possible that a malicious process can unbind a pasid which is
> > used by another normal process?  
> 
> Yes, it's up to the device driver that calls unbind() to check that
> the caller is allowed to unbind this PASID. We can't do it ourselves
> since unbind() could also be called from a kernel thread for example
> from a cleanup function in some workqueue, outside the context of the
> process to unbind.
> 
I am wondering if we can avoid the complexity around permission
checking by simply _only_ allow bind/unbind() on current mm? what would
be the missing use cases if we bind current only?
It can also avoid other race such as unbind and mmu_notifier release
call.

> Jean
> 
> > 
> > It might happen in below sequence:
> > 
> > 
> > Process A                       Process B
> > =========                       =========
> > iommu_sva_init_device(dev)
> > iommu_sva_bind_device(dev)
> > ....
> > device access mm of A with
> > #PASID returned above
> > ....
> >                                 iommu_sva_unbind_device(dev, #PASID)
> > ....
> > [unrecoverable errors]
> > 
> > I didn't have a thorough consideration of this. Sorry if this has
> > been prevented.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Lu Baolu  

[Jacob Pan]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-26 18:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-20 17:00 [PATCH v3 00/10] Shared Virtual Addressing for the IOMMU Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found] ` <20180920170046.20154-1-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 01/10] iommu: Introduce Shared Virtual Addressing API Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180920170046.20154-2-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-23  2:39       ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <f406bcf7-4e54-9f1b-88eb-03fc642ffede-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-24 12:07           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-24 12:07             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-25 13:16           ` Joerg Roedel
2018-09-25 13:16             ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]             ` <20180925131647.rygncwik5uszsm3n-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-25 22:46               ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-25 22:46                 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-26 10:14                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-26 10:14                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-26 12:48                 ` Joerg Roedel
2018-09-26 12:48                   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 02/10] iommu/sva: Bind process address spaces to devices Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180920170046.20154-3-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-23  3:05       ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-23  3:05         ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <cdcd4083-ef28-4c5e-4a2c-5b93e61a86b4-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-24 12:07           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-24 12:07             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <7cbd503a-c79e-3c40-7388-ce6c23f7f536-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-26 18:01               ` Jacob Pan [this message]
2018-09-26 18:01                 ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-27 15:06                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-27 15:06                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                   ` <79c0e0e1-691e-b8e1-0e68-21876135d2ab-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-28  1:14                     ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-28  1:14                       ` Tian, Kevin
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 03/10] iommu/sva: Manage process address spaces Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180920170046.20154-4-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-25  3:15       ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-25  3:15         ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]         ` <09933fce-b959-32e1-b1f3-0d4389abf735-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-25 10:32           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-25 10:32             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <5aff8dc0-9ce7-5018-e78e-770279681cbc-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-26  3:12               ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-26  3:12                 ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-25 13:26           ` Joerg Roedel
2018-09-25 13:26             ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]             ` <20180925132627.vbdotr23o7lqrmnd-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-25 23:33               ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-25 23:33                 ` Lu Baolu
     [not found]                 ` <b33a1911-e100-586b-b8df-eb04312ecffd-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-26 10:20                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-26 10:20                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                     ` <754d495d-d016-f42f-5682-ba4a75a618e0-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-26 12:45                       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-09-26 12:45                         ` Joerg Roedel
     [not found]                         ` <20180926124527.GD18287-zLv9SwRftAIdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-26 13:50                           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-26 13:50                             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                             ` <1f53c6f1-4e7a-1451-1abc-a7bca4a2359d-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-27  3:22                               ` Liu, Yi L
2018-09-27  3:22                                 ` Liu, Yi L
     [not found]                                 ` <A2975661238FB949B60364EF0F2C257439D0CC48-0J0gbvR4kTg/UvCtAeCM4rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-27 13:37                                   ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-27 13:37                                     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]                                     ` <9aedb22e-ff28-7bfd-feeb-ae86802e6400-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-08  8:29                                       ` Liu, Yi L
2018-10-08  8:29                                         ` Liu, Yi L
2018-09-26 22:58                           ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-26 22:58                             ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-26 22:35       ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-26 22:35         ` Jacob Pan
2018-10-03 17:52         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-03 17:52           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]           ` <8ebfd3b5-9e16-85f6-a9f9-2627fb4b5b03-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-15 20:53             ` Jacob Pan
2018-10-15 20:53               ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 04/10] iommu/sva: Add a mm_exit callback for device drivers Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 05/10] iommu/sva: Track mm changes with an MMU notifier Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 06/10] iommu/sva: Search mm by PASID Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180920170046.20154-7-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-25  4:59       ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-25  4:59         ` Lu Baolu
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 07/10] iommu: Add a page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180920170046.20154-8-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-09-27 20:37       ` Jacob Pan
2018-09-27 20:37         ` Jacob Pan
2018-10-03 17:46         ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-03 17:46           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 08/10] iommu/iopf: Handle mm faults Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [PATCH v3 09/10] iommu/sva: Register page fault handler Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00   ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/10] iommu/sva: Add support for private PASIDs Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-09-20 17:00     ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]     ` <20180920170046.20154-11-jean-philippe.brucker-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-12 14:32       ` Jordan Crouse
2018-10-12 14:32         ` Jordan Crouse
     [not found]         ` <20181012143229.GI9977-9PYrDHPZ2Orvke4nUoYGnHL1okKdlPRT@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-17 14:21           ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-17 14:21             ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
     [not found]             ` <3e1b58bb-eb16-5855-2922-2b15b37ba971-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2018-10-17 14:24               ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-17 14:24                 ` Jean-Philippe Brucker
2018-10-17 15:07               ` Jordan Crouse
2018-10-17 15:07                 ` Jordan Crouse

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