From: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Murilo Opsfelder Araujo <muriloo@linux.ibm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
Shilpasri G Bhat <shilpa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Akshay Adiga <akshay.adiga@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/3] powerpc: Detection and scheduler optimization for POWER9 bigcore
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 16:49:13 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181003111913.GA9055@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <994106db-7f79-7d22-0d4e-f458bd85bb64@intel.com>
Hello Dave,
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 07:05:11AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 10/01/2018 06:16 AM, Gautham R. Shenoy wrote:
> >
> > Patch 3: Creates a pair of sysfs attributes named
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/topology/smallcore_thread_siblings
> > and
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/topology/smallcore_thread_siblings_list
> > exposing the small-core siblings that share the L1 cache
> > to the userspace.
>
> I really don't think you've justified the existence of a new user/kernel
> interface here. We already have information about threads share L1
> caches in here:
>
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cache/index0/shared_cpu_list
Hmmm. My bad, I wasn't aware of this sysfs interface. We can use this
to share information about L1 cache. And currently on the upstream
kernel we report incorrect value on POWER9 SMT8 core. I will fix
this. Thanks for calling this out.
>
> The only question would be if anything would break because it assumes
> that all SMT siblings share all caches. But, it breaks if your new
> interface is there or not; it's old software that we care about.
>
Up until POWER9 SMT8 cores, this assumption was true that all SMT
siblings share all caches. POWER9 SMT8 cores are the only exception.
--
Thanks and Regards
gautham.
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From: Gautham R Shenoy <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Gautham R. Shenoy" <ego@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.ibm.com>,
Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
Vaidyanathan Srinivasan <svaidy@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Akshay Adiga <akshay.adiga@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Shilpasri G Bhat <shilpa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Oliver O'Halloran" <oohall@gmail.com>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Murilo Opsfelder Araujo <muriloo@linux.ibm.com>,
Anton Blanchard <anton@samba.org>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 0/3] powerpc: Detection and scheduler optimization for POWER9 bigcore
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2018 16:49:13 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181003111913.GA9055@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <994106db-7f79-7d22-0d4e-f458bd85bb64@intel.com>
Hello Dave,
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 07:05:11AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 10/01/2018 06:16 AM, Gautham R. Shenoy wrote:
> >
> > Patch 3: Creates a pair of sysfs attributes named
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/topology/smallcore_thread_siblings
> > and
> > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpuN/topology/smallcore_thread_siblings_list
> > exposing the small-core siblings that share the L1 cache
> > to the userspace.
>
> I really don't think you've justified the existence of a new user/kernel
> interface here. We already have information about threads share L1
> caches in here:
>
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cache/index0/shared_cpu_list
Hmmm. My bad, I wasn't aware of this sysfs interface. We can use this
to share information about L1 cache. And currently on the upstream
kernel we report incorrect value on POWER9 SMT8 core. I will fix
this. Thanks for calling this out.
>
> The only question would be if anything would break because it assumes
> that all SMT siblings share all caches. But, it breaks if your new
> interface is there or not; it's old software that we care about.
>
Up until POWER9 SMT8 cores, this assumption was true that all SMT
siblings share all caches. POWER9 SMT8 cores are the only exception.
--
Thanks and Regards
gautham.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-03 11:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-01 13:16 [PATCH v9 0/3] powerpc: Detection and scheduler optimization for POWER9 bigcore Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 13:16 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 13:16 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] powerpc: Detect the presence of big-cores via "ibm, thread-groups" Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 13:16 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] powerpc: Detect the presence of big-cores via "ibm,thread-groups" Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 13:16 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] powerpc: Use cpu_smallcore_sibling_mask at SMT level on bigcores Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 13:16 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 13:16 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] powerpc/sysfs: Add topology/smallcore_thread_siblings[_list] Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 13:16 ` Gautham R. Shenoy
2018-10-01 14:05 ` [PATCH v9 0/3] powerpc: Detection and scheduler optimization for POWER9 bigcore Dave Hansen
2018-10-03 11:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy [this message]
2018-10-03 11:19 ` Gautham R Shenoy
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