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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@gmail.com>,
	Alistair Francis <alistair@alistair23.me>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
	Peter Crosthwaite <crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com>,
	Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Aleksandar Markovic <amarkovic@wavecomp.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/45] vl.c deprecate incorrect CPUs topology
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:38:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181021173820.GD2215@umbus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181018200422.4358-3-ehabkost@redhat.com>

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On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:03:39PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
> 
> -smp [cpus],sockets/cores/threads[,maxcpus] should describe topology
> so that total number of logical CPUs [sockets * cores * threads]
> would be equal to [maxcpus], however historically we didn't have
> such check in QEMU and it is possible to start VM with an invalid
> topology.
> Deprecate invalid options combination so we can make sure that
> the topology VM started with is always correct in the future.
> Users with an invalid sockets/cores/threads/maxcpus values should
> fix their CLI to make sure that
>    [sockets * cores * threads] == [maxcpus]
> 
> Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
> Message-Id: <1536836762-273036-2-git-send-email-imammedo@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>

Reviewed-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>

> ---
>  vl.c                 |  7 +++++++
>  qemu-deprecated.texi | 12 ++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 19 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/vl.c b/vl.c
> index 4e25c78bff..027d04c7ca 100644
> --- a/vl.c
> +++ b/vl.c
> @@ -1235,6 +1235,13 @@ static void smp_parse(QemuOpts *opts)
>              exit(1);
>          }
>  
> +        if (sockets * cores * threads != max_cpus) {
> +            warn_report("Invalid CPU topology deprecated: "
> +                        "sockets (%u) * cores (%u) * threads (%u) "
> +                        "!= maxcpus (%u)",
> +                        sockets, cores, threads, max_cpus);
> +        }
> +
>          smp_cpus = cpus;
>          smp_cores = cores;
>          smp_threads = threads;
> diff --git a/qemu-deprecated.texi b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> index 11b870c5c1..5d2d7a3588 100644
> --- a/qemu-deprecated.texi
> +++ b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> @@ -86,6 +86,18 @@ for these file types is 'host_cdrom' or 'host_device' as appropriate.
>  The @option{name} parameter of the @option{-net} option is a synonym
>  for the @option{id} parameter, which should now be used instead.
>  
> +@subsection -smp (invalid topologies) (since 3.1)
> +
> +CPU topology properties should describe whole machine topology including
> +possible CPUs.
> +
> +However, historically it was possible to start QEMU with an incorrect topology
> +where @math{@var{n} <= @var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} < @var{maxcpus}},
> +which could lead to an incorrect topology enumeration by the guest.
> +Support for invalid topologies will be removed, the user must ensure
> +topologies described with -smp include all possible cpus, i.e.
> +  @math{@var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} = @var{maxcpus}}.
> +
>  @section QEMU Machine Protocol (QMP) commands
>  
>  @subsection block-dirty-bitmap-add "autoload" parameter (since 2.12.0)

-- 
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david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	libvir-list@redhat.com, Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	qemu-arm@nongnu.org,
	"Edgar E. Iglesias" <edgar.iglesias@gmail.com>,
	Peter Crosthwaite <crosthwaite.peter@gmail.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Artyom Tarasenko <atar4qemu@gmail.com>,
	Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	Michael Walle <michael@walle.cc>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Aleksandar Markovic <amarkovic@wavecomp.com>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	Alistair Francis <alistair@alistair23.me>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
	Max Filippov <jcmvbkbc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/45] vl.c deprecate incorrect CPUs topology
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:38:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181021173820.GD2215@umbus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181018200422.4358-3-ehabkost@redhat.com>

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On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:03:39PM -0300, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
> 
> -smp [cpus],sockets/cores/threads[,maxcpus] should describe topology
> so that total number of logical CPUs [sockets * cores * threads]
> would be equal to [maxcpus], however historically we didn't have
> such check in QEMU and it is possible to start VM with an invalid
> topology.
> Deprecate invalid options combination so we can make sure that
> the topology VM started with is always correct in the future.
> Users with an invalid sockets/cores/threads/maxcpus values should
> fix their CLI to make sure that
>    [sockets * cores * threads] == [maxcpus]
> 
> Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
> Message-Id: <1536836762-273036-2-git-send-email-imammedo@redhat.com>
> Reviewed-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
> Signed-off-by: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>

Reviewed-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>

> ---
>  vl.c                 |  7 +++++++
>  qemu-deprecated.texi | 12 ++++++++++++
>  2 files changed, 19 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/vl.c b/vl.c
> index 4e25c78bff..027d04c7ca 100644
> --- a/vl.c
> +++ b/vl.c
> @@ -1235,6 +1235,13 @@ static void smp_parse(QemuOpts *opts)
>              exit(1);
>          }
>  
> +        if (sockets * cores * threads != max_cpus) {
> +            warn_report("Invalid CPU topology deprecated: "
> +                        "sockets (%u) * cores (%u) * threads (%u) "
> +                        "!= maxcpus (%u)",
> +                        sockets, cores, threads, max_cpus);
> +        }
> +
>          smp_cpus = cpus;
>          smp_cores = cores;
>          smp_threads = threads;
> diff --git a/qemu-deprecated.texi b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> index 11b870c5c1..5d2d7a3588 100644
> --- a/qemu-deprecated.texi
> +++ b/qemu-deprecated.texi
> @@ -86,6 +86,18 @@ for these file types is 'host_cdrom' or 'host_device' as appropriate.
>  The @option{name} parameter of the @option{-net} option is a synonym
>  for the @option{id} parameter, which should now be used instead.
>  
> +@subsection -smp (invalid topologies) (since 3.1)
> +
> +CPU topology properties should describe whole machine topology including
> +possible CPUs.
> +
> +However, historically it was possible to start QEMU with an incorrect topology
> +where @math{@var{n} <= @var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} < @var{maxcpus}},
> +which could lead to an incorrect topology enumeration by the guest.
> +Support for invalid topologies will be removed, the user must ensure
> +topologies described with -smp include all possible cpus, i.e.
> +  @math{@var{sockets} * @var{cores} * @var{threads} = @var{maxcpus}}.
> +
>  @section QEMU Machine Protocol (QMP) commands
>  
>  @subsection block-dirty-bitmap-add "autoload" parameter (since 2.12.0)

-- 
David Gibson			| I'll have my music baroque, and my code
david AT gibson.dropbear.id.au	| minimalist, thank you.  NOT _the_ _other_
				| _way_ _around_!
http://www.ozlabs.org/~dgibson

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Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-10-18 20:03 [Qemu-arm] [PULL 00/45] Machine queue, 2018-10-18 Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 01/45] hostmem-file: fixed the memory leak while get pmem path Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-21 17:37   ` David Gibson
2018-10-21 17:37     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 02/45] vl.c deprecate incorrect CPUs topology Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-21 17:38   ` David Gibson [this message]
2018-10-21 17:38     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 03/45] vl:c: make sure that sockets are calculated correctly in '-smp X' case Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:06   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:06     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 04/45] numa: Fix QMP command set-numa-node error handling Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:07   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:07     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 05/45] trace-events: Fix copy/paste typo Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:08   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:08     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 06/45] hw/timer/sun4v-rtc: Convert from DPRINTF() macro to trace events Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:09   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:09     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 07/45] hw/timer/sun4v-rtc: Use DeviceState::realize rather than SysBusDevice::init Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:10   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:10     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 08/45] hw/ssi/xilinx_spi: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:11   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:11     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 09/45] hw/sh4/sh_pci: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:12   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:12     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 10/45] hw/pci-host/bonito: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:14   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:14     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 11/45] hw/mips/gt64xxx_pci: Convert gt64120_reset() function into Device reset method Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 12/45] hw/mips/gt64xxx_pci: Mark as bridge device Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:16   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:16     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 13/45] hw/sparc64/niagara: Model the I/O Bridge with the 'unimplemented_device' Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 14/45] hw/alpha/typhoon: Remove unuseful code Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:18   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 15/45] hw/hppa/dino: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:18   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:18     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 16/45] hw/mips/malta: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:19   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:19     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-trivial] [PULL 17/45] machine: fix a typo Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:20   ` [Qemu-trivial] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:20     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 18/45] memory-device: fix alignment error message Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:20   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 19/45] memory-device: fix error message when hinted address is too small Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 20/45] memory-device: improve "range conflicts" error message Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 21/45] pc-dimm: pass PCDIMMDevice to pc_dimm_.*plug Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 22/45] memory-device: use memory device terminology in error messages Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:03   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 23/45] memory-device: introduce separate config option Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 24/45] memory-device: forward errors in get_region_size()/get_plugged_size() Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 25/45] memory-device: document MemoryDeviceClass Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 26/45] memory-device: add and use memory_device_get_region_size() Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 27/45] memory-device: factor out get_memory_region() from pc-dimm Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 28/45] memory-device: drop get_region_size() Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 29/45] memory-device: add device class function set_addr() Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 30/45] memory-device: complete factoring out pre_plug handling Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 31/45] memory-device: complete factoring out plug handling Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 32/45] memory-device: complete factoring out unplug handling Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 33/45] memory-device: trace when pre_plugging/plugging/unplugging Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 34/45] net: etraxfs_eth: convert SysBus init method to a realize method Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:22   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:22     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 35/45] net: etraxfs_eth: add a reset method Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 36/45] net: lan9118: convert SysBus init method to a realize method Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:23   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:23     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 37/45] net: lance: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:24   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:24     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 38/45] net: milkymist_minimac2: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:24   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:24     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 39/45] net: mipsnet: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:25   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:25     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 40/45] net: opencores_eth: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:25   ` [Qemu-arm] " David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 41/45] net: smc91c111: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:25   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:25     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 42/45] net: stellaris_enet: " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:26   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:26     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 43/45] net: stellaris_enet: add a reset method Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 44/45] net: xgmac: convert SysBus init method to a realize method Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:26   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:26     ` David Gibson
2018-10-18 20:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PULL 45/45] numa: Clean up error reporting in parse_numa() Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-18 20:04   ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-23 15:27   ` David Gibson
2018-10-23 15:27     ` David Gibson
2018-10-19 14:12 ` [Qemu-arm] [PULL 00/45] Machine queue, 2018-10-18 Peter Maydell
2018-10-19 14:12   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2018-10-19 17:00   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-10-19 17:00     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-10-19 17:55     ` [Qemu-arm] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-10-19 17:55       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-10-19 18:44   ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-19 18:44     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-19 19:53     ` [Qemu-arm] " Igor Mammedov
2018-10-19 19:53       ` Igor Mammedov
2018-10-19 20:23       ` [Qemu-arm] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-19 20:23         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-10-20 10:27         ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-10-22  9:00         ` [Qemu-arm] " Igor Mammedov
2018-10-22  9:00           ` Igor Mammedov
2018-10-22 15:02           ` [Qemu-arm] " Markus Armbruster
2018-10-22 15:02             ` Markus Armbruster

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