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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] vfio-ccw: concurrent I/O handling
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:29:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190130142956.57f9eff3.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190129203933.4e57cd91@oc2783563651>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:39:33 +0100
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 10:58:40 +0100
> Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > > The problem I see with the let the hardware sort it out is that, for
> > > > > that to work, we need to juggle multiple translations simultaneously
> > > > > (or am I wrong?). Doing that does not appear particularly simple to
> > > > > me.      
> > > > 
> > > > None in the first stage, at most two in the second stage, I guess.
> > > >       
> > > 
> > > Expected benefit of the second stage over the first stage? (I see none.)    
> > 
> > Making something possible that is allowed by the architecture. Not
> > really important, though.
> >   
> 
> I had a chat with Farhan, and he suggested that by 'allowed by
> architecture' you mean " You can submit a new request if the subchannel
> is pending with primary, but not with secondary state." (from Message-ID:
> <20190125152154.05120461.cohuck@redhat.com>).

Yes. I might have mixed things up, though.

> 
> So I re-read the PoP.
> 
> From the description of the start subchannel instruction:
> """
> Special Conditions
> 
> Condition code 1 is set, and no other action is
> taken, when the subchannel is status pending when
> START SUBCHANNEL is executed. On some mod-
> els, condition code 1 is not set when the subchannel
> is status pending with only secondary status; instead,
> the status-pending condition is discarded.
> 
> Condition code 2 is set, and no other action is
> taken, when a start, halt, or clear function is currently
> in progress at the subchannel (see “Function Control
> (FC)” on page 13).
> 
> """
> 
> So I guess you mixed primary and secondary up and wanted to say:
> "You can submit a new request if the subchannel
> is pending with _secondary_, but not with _primary_ _status_."
> 
> But does that really mean architecture allows the subchannel
> to accept multiple ssch() instructions so that it ends up processing
> two or more channel programs in parallel.

That's not what I meant. The vfio-ccw driver still holds on to one cp,
while a second one could be submitted.

But let's just end discussing this here, and continue with discussing
the reworked state machine, ok? It's not really relevant for going
forward with halt/clear.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Eric Farman <farman@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Farhan Ali <alifm@linux.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/5] vfio-ccw: concurrent I/O handling
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 14:29:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190130142956.57f9eff3.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190129203933.4e57cd91@oc2783563651>

On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 20:39:33 +0100
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 29 Jan 2019 10:58:40 +0100
> Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > > > > The problem I see with the let the hardware sort it out is that, for
> > > > > that to work, we need to juggle multiple translations simultaneously
> > > > > (or am I wrong?). Doing that does not appear particularly simple to
> > > > > me.      
> > > > 
> > > > None in the first stage, at most two in the second stage, I guess.
> > > >       
> > > 
> > > Expected benefit of the second stage over the first stage? (I see none.)    
> > 
> > Making something possible that is allowed by the architecture. Not
> > really important, though.
> >   
> 
> I had a chat with Farhan, and he suggested that by 'allowed by
> architecture' you mean " You can submit a new request if the subchannel
> is pending with primary, but not with secondary state." (from Message-ID:
> <20190125152154.05120461.cohuck@redhat.com>).

Yes. I might have mixed things up, though.

> 
> So I re-read the PoP.
> 
> From the description of the start subchannel instruction:
> """
> Special Conditions
> 
> Condition code 1 is set, and no other action is
> taken, when the subchannel is status pending when
> START SUBCHANNEL is executed. On some mod-
> els, condition code 1 is not set when the subchannel
> is status pending with only secondary status; instead,
> the status-pending condition is discarded.
> 
> Condition code 2 is set, and no other action is
> taken, when a start, halt, or clear function is currently
> in progress at the subchannel (see “Function Control
> (FC)” on page 13).
> 
> """
> 
> So I guess you mixed primary and secondary up and wanted to say:
> "You can submit a new request if the subchannel
> is pending with _secondary_, but not with _primary_ _status_."
> 
> But does that really mean architecture allows the subchannel
> to accept multiple ssch() instructions so that it ends up processing
> two or more channel programs in parallel.

That's not what I meant. The vfio-ccw driver still holds on to one cp,
while a second one could be submitted.

But let's just end discussing this here, and continue with discussing
the reworked state machine, ok? It's not really relevant for going
forward with halt/clear.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-30 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 134+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-21 11:03 [PATCH v2 0/5] vfio-ccw: support hsch/csch (kernel part) Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] vfio-ccw: make it safe to access channel programs Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 14:56   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 14:56     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 15:19     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 15:19       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] vfio-ccw: concurrent I/O handling Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 20:20   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-21 20:20     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 10:29     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 10:29       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 11:17       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 11:17         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 11:53         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 11:53           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 12:46           ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 12:46             ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 17:26             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 17:26               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 19:03               ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 19:03                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 10:34                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 10:34                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 13:06                   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 13:06                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 13:34                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 13:34                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 19:16                       ` Eric Farman
2019-01-24 19:16                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 10:13                         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 10:13                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 18:33   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 18:33     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 10:21     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 10:21       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 13:30       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 13:30         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 10:05         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:05           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:08       ` Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 10:08         ` [Qemu-devel] " Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 10:19         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:19           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 11:18           ` Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 11:18             ` [Qemu-devel] " Pierre Morel
2019-01-24 11:45           ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 11:45             ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 19:14           ` Eric Farman
2019-01-24 19:14             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:25   ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:37     ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25  2:37       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 10:24       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 10:24         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 12:58         ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 12:58           ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 14:01           ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 14:01             ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 14:21             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 14:21               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 16:04               ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 16:04                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 17:13                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:13                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 19:30                   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 19:30                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-29  9:58                     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29  9:58                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 19:39                       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-29 19:39                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-30 13:29                         ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2019-01-30 13:29                           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-30 14:32                           ` Farhan Ali
2019-01-30 14:32                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Farhan Ali
2019-01-28 17:09             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:09               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 19:15               ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 19:15                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-28 21:48                 ` Eric Farman
2019-01-28 21:48                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-29 10:20                   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 10:20                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 14:14                     ` Eric Farman
2019-01-29 14:14                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-29 18:53                       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 18:53                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 10:10                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-29 10:10                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 15:57           ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 15:57             ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:24             ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:24               ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 21:50               ` Eric Farman
2019-01-28 21:50                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 20:22         ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 20:22           ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:31           ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:31             ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-25 13:09       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 13:09         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 12:58     ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 12:58       ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 20:21       ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 20:21         ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] vfio-ccw: add capabilities chain Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 15:57   ` [qemu-s390x] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 15:57     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 16:19   ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 16:19     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-25 21:00     ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 21:00       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:34       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:34         ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] s390/cio: export hsch to modules Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-22 15:21   ` [qemu-s390x] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-22 15:21     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-21 11:03 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] vfio-ccw: add handling for async channel instructions Cornelia Huck
2019-01-21 11:03   ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-23 15:51   ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-23 15:51     ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 10:06     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:06       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-01-24 10:37       ` Halil Pasic
2019-01-24 10:37         ` [Qemu-devel] " Halil Pasic
2019-01-25 21:00   ` Eric Farman
2019-01-25 21:00     ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Farman
2019-01-28 17:40     ` Cornelia Huck
2019-01-28 17:40       ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck

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