From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
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Zhao Yan <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:42:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190220124242.5a1685c5.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33183CC9F5247A488A2544077AF19020DB25D30F@dggeml511-mbx.china.huawei.com>
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:28:46 +0000
"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dr. David Alan Gilbert [mailto:dgilbert@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:02 PM
> > To: Zhao Yan <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > Cc: cjia@nvidia.com; kvm@vger.kernel.org; aik@ozlabs.ru;
> > Zhengxiao.zx@alibaba-inc.com; shuangtai.tst@alibaba-inc.com;
> > qemu-devel@nongnu.org; kwankhede@nvidia.com; eauger@redhat.com;
> > yi.l.liu@intel.com; eskultet@redhat.com; ziye.yang@intel.com;
> > mlevitsk@redhat.com; pasic@linux.ibm.com; Gonglei (Arei)
> > <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>; felipe@nutanix.com; Ken.Xue@amd.com;
> > kevin.tian@intel.com; alex.williamson@redhat.com;
> > intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org; changpeng.liu@intel.com;
> > cohuck@redhat.com; zhi.a.wang@intel.com; jonathan.davies@nutanix.com
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration
> >
> > * Zhao Yan (yan.y.zhao@intel.com) wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:32:13AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > * Yan Zhao (yan.y.zhao@intel.com) wrote:
> > > > > This patchset enables VFIO devices to have live migration capability.
> > > > > Currently it does not support post-copy phase.
> > > > >
> > > > > It follows Alex's comments on last version of VFIO live migration patches,
> > > > > including device states, VFIO device state region layout, dirty bitmap's
> > > > > query.
> > > > b) How do we detect if we're migrating from/to the wrong device or
> > > > version of device? Or say to a device with older firmware or perhaps
> > > > a device that has less device memory ?
> > > Actually it's still an open for VFIO migration. Need to think about
> > > whether it's better to check that in libvirt or qemu (like a device magic
> > > along with verion ?).
>
> We must keep the hardware generation is the same with one POD of public cloud
> providers. But we still think about the live migration between from the the lower
> generation of hardware migrated to the higher generation.
Agreed, lower->higher is the one direction that might make sense to
support.
But regardless of that, I think we need to make sure that incompatible
devices/versions fail directly instead of failing in a subtle, hard to
debug way. Might be useful to do some initial sanity checks in libvirt
as well.
How easy is it to obtain that information in a form that can be
consumed by higher layers? Can we find out the device type at least?
What about some kind of revision?
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
Zhao Yan <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
"cjia@nvidia.com" <cjia@nvidia.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"aik@ozlabs.ru" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
"Zhengxiao.zx@alibaba-inc.com" <Zhengxiao.zx@alibaba-inc.com>,
"shuangtai.tst@alibaba-inc.com" <shuangtai.tst@alibaba-inc.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"kwankhede@nvidia.com" <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
"eauger@redhat.com" <eauger@redhat.com>,
"yi.l.liu@intel.com" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
"eskultet@redhat.com" <eskultet@redhat.com>,
"ziye.yang@intel.com" <ziye.yang@intel.com>,
"mlevitsk@redhat.com" <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
"pasic@linux.ibm.com" <pasic@linux.ibm.com>,
"felipe@nutanix.com" <felipe@nutanix.com>,
"Ken.Xue@amd.com" <Ken.Xue@amd.com>,
"kevin.tian@intel.com" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
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"intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org"
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"jonathan.davies@nutanix.com" <jonathan.davies@nutanix.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:42:42 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190220124242.5a1685c5.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33183CC9F5247A488A2544077AF19020DB25D30F@dggeml511-mbx.china.huawei.com>
On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:28:46 +0000
"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com> wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dr. David Alan Gilbert [mailto:dgilbert@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:02 PM
> > To: Zhao Yan <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > Cc: cjia@nvidia.com; kvm@vger.kernel.org; aik@ozlabs.ru;
> > Zhengxiao.zx@alibaba-inc.com; shuangtai.tst@alibaba-inc.com;
> > qemu-devel@nongnu.org; kwankhede@nvidia.com; eauger@redhat.com;
> > yi.l.liu@intel.com; eskultet@redhat.com; ziye.yang@intel.com;
> > mlevitsk@redhat.com; pasic@linux.ibm.com; Gonglei (Arei)
> > <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>; felipe@nutanix.com; Ken.Xue@amd.com;
> > kevin.tian@intel.com; alex.williamson@redhat.com;
> > intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org; changpeng.liu@intel.com;
> > cohuck@redhat.com; zhi.a.wang@intel.com; jonathan.davies@nutanix.com
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration
> >
> > * Zhao Yan (yan.y.zhao@intel.com) wrote:
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:32:13AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > > * Yan Zhao (yan.y.zhao@intel.com) wrote:
> > > > > This patchset enables VFIO devices to have live migration capability.
> > > > > Currently it does not support post-copy phase.
> > > > >
> > > > > It follows Alex's comments on last version of VFIO live migration patches,
> > > > > including device states, VFIO device state region layout, dirty bitmap's
> > > > > query.
> > > > b) How do we detect if we're migrating from/to the wrong device or
> > > > version of device? Or say to a device with older firmware or perhaps
> > > > a device that has less device memory ?
> > > Actually it's still an open for VFIO migration. Need to think about
> > > whether it's better to check that in libvirt or qemu (like a device magic
> > > along with verion ?).
>
> We must keep the hardware generation is the same with one POD of public cloud
> providers. But we still think about the live migration between from the the lower
> generation of hardware migrated to the higher generation.
Agreed, lower->higher is the one direction that might make sense to
support.
But regardless of that, I think we need to make sure that incompatible
devices/versions fail directly instead of failing in a subtle, hard to
debug way. Might be useful to do some initial sanity checks in libvirt
as well.
How easy is it to obtain that information in a form that can be
consumed by higher layers? Can we find out the device type at least?
What about some kind of revision?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-20 11:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-02-19 8:50 [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:50 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] vfio/migration: define kernel interfaces Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 13:09 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-19 13:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-02-20 7:36 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 7:36 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 17:08 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-20 17:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-02-21 1:47 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 1:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] vfio/migration: support device of device config capability Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 11:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-19 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 5:12 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 5:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 10:57 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 10:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-19 14:37 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-19 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-02-20 22:54 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 22:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 10:56 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-21 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] vfio/migration: tracking of dirty page in system memory Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio/migration: turn on migration Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:52 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:53 ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio/migration: support device memory capability Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 8:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 11:25 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-19 11:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 5:17 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 5:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-19 14:42 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-02-19 14:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christophe de Dinechin
2019-02-20 7:58 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 7:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 10:14 ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-02-20 10:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christophe de Dinechin
2019-02-21 0:07 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 0:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-19 11:32 ` [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-19 11:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 5:28 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 5:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 11:01 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 11:28 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-20 11:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-20 11:42 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2019-02-20 11:42 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-20 12:07 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-20 12:07 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-03-27 6:35 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-27 20:18 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-03-27 22:10 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-28 8:36 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-28 9:21 ` Erik Skultety
2019-03-28 16:04 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-29 2:47 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-29 14:26 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-29 23:10 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-30 14:14 ` Alex Williamson
2019-04-01 2:17 ` Zhao Yan
2019-04-01 8:14 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-01 8:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck
2019-04-01 8:40 ` Yan Zhao
2019-04-01 8:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Yan Zhao
2019-04-01 14:15 ` Alex Williamson
2019-04-01 14:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2019-02-21 0:31 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 0:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 9:15 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-21 9:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 11:56 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-20 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 0:24 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 0:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 1:35 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 1:35 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 1:58 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 1:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 3:33 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 4:08 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 4:08 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 5:46 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 5:46 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 2:04 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 2:04 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 3:16 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 3:16 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 4:21 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 4:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 5:56 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 5:56 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 20:40 ` Alex Williamson
2019-02-21 20:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2019-02-25 2:22 ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-25 2:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-03-06 0:22 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-06 0:22 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-03-07 17:44 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-07 17:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2019-03-07 23:20 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-03-07 23:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2019-03-08 16:11 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-08 16:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2019-03-08 16:21 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-03-08 16:21 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-03-08 22:02 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-08 22:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2019-03-11 2:33 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-03-11 2:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2019-03-11 20:19 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-11 20:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Alex Williamson
2019-03-12 2:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2019-03-12 2:48 ` [Qemu-devel] " Tian, Kevin
2019-03-13 19:57 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-12 2:57 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-12 2:57 ` [Qemu-devel] " Zhao Yan
2019-03-13 1:13 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-13 19:14 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-14 1:12 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-14 22:44 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-14 23:05 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-15 2:24 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-18 2:51 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-18 3:09 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-18 3:27 ` Zhao Yan
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