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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, James Hogan <jhogan@kernel.org>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Paul Burton <paul.burton@mips.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/16] mm: pass get_user_pages_fast iterator arguments in a structure
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 10:15:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190621081501.GA17718@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wh46y3x5O0HkR=R4ETh6e5pDCrEsJ94CtC0fyQiYYAf6A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:21:46AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Hmm. Honestly, I've never seen anything like that in any kernel profiles.
> 
> Compared to the problems I _do_ see (which is usually the obvious
> cache misses, and locking), it must either be in the noise or it's
> some problem specific to whatever CPU you are doing performance work
> on?
> 
> I've occasionally seen pipeline hiccups in profiles, but it's usually
> been either some serious glass jaw of the core, or it's been something
> really stupid we did (or occasionally that the compiler did: one in
> particular I remember was how there was a time when gcc would narrow
> stores when it could, so if you set a bit in a word, it would do it
> with a byte store, and then when you read the whole word afterwards
> you'd get a major pipeline stall and it happened to show up in some
> really hot paths).

I've not seen any difference in the GUP bench output here ar all.

But I'm fine with skipping this patch for now, I have a potential
series I'm looking into that would benefit a lot from it, but we
can discusss it in that context and make sure all the other works gets in
in time.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, James Hogan <jhogan@kernel.org>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Paul Burton <paul.burton@mips.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/16] mm: pass get_user_pages_fast iterator arguments in a structure
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 08:15:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190621081501.GA17718@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wh46y3x5O0HkR=R4ETh6e5pDCrEsJ94CtC0fyQiYYAf6A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:21:46AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Hmm. Honestly, I've never seen anything like that in any kernel profiles.
> 
> Compared to the problems I _do_ see (which is usually the obvious
> cache misses, and locking), it must either be in the noise or it's
> some problem specific to whatever CPU you are doing performance work
> on?
> 
> I've occasionally seen pipeline hiccups in profiles, but it's usually
> been either some serious glass jaw of the core, or it's been something
> really stupid we did (or occasionally that the compiler did: one in
> particular I remember was how there was a time when gcc would narrow
> stores when it could, so if you set a bit in a word, it would do it
> with a byte store, and then when you read the whole word afterwards
> you'd get a major pipeline stall and it happened to show up in some
> really hot paths).

I've not seen any difference in the GUP bench output here ar all.

But I'm fine with skipping this patch for now, I have a potential
series I'm looking into that would benefit a lot from it, but we
can discusss it in that context and make sure all the other works gets in
in time.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Linux-sh list <linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux List Kernel Mailing <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@oracle.com>,
	Paul Burton <paul.burton@mips.com>,
	James Hogan <jhogan@kernel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linux-mips@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 16/16] mm: pass get_user_pages_fast iterator arguments in a structure
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 10:15:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190621081501.GA17718@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wh46y3x5O0HkR=R4ETh6e5pDCrEsJ94CtC0fyQiYYAf6A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 10:21:46AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Hmm. Honestly, I've never seen anything like that in any kernel profiles.
> 
> Compared to the problems I _do_ see (which is usually the obvious
> cache misses, and locking), it must either be in the noise or it's
> some problem specific to whatever CPU you are doing performance work
> on?
> 
> I've occasionally seen pipeline hiccups in profiles, but it's usually
> been either some serious glass jaw of the core, or it's been something
> really stupid we did (or occasionally that the compiler did: one in
> particular I remember was how there was a time when gcc would narrow
> stores when it could, so if you set a bit in a word, it would do it
> with a byte store, and then when you read the whole word afterwards
> you'd get a major pipeline stall and it happened to show up in some
> really hot paths).

I've not seen any difference in the GUP bench output here ar all.

But I'm fine with skipping this patch for now, I have a potential
series I'm looking into that would benefit a lot from it, but we
can discusss it in that context and make sure all the other works gets in
in time.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-21  8:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 239+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-11 14:40 switch the remaining architectures to use generic GUP v3 Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: use untagged_addr() for get_user_pages_fast addresses Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 19:22   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:22     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:22     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-21 13:16   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 15:35     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-21 15:35       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-21 15:35       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-21 15:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 15:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 15:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:41     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:41       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:43     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:43       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 02/16] mm: simplify gup_fast_permitted Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-21 13:40   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm: lift the x86_32 PAE version of gup_get_pte to common code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-21 13:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 13:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 04/16] MIPS: use the generic get_user_pages_fast code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-21 14:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:05     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:46     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:46       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:46       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 05/16] sh: add the missing pud_page definition Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 06/16] sh: use the generic get_user_pages_fast code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 07/16] sparc64: add the missing pgd_page definition Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 08/16] sparc64: define untagged_addr() Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 19:23   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:23     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:23     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 09/16] sparc64: use the generic get_user_pages_fast code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 19:35   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:35     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:35     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 10/16] mm: rename CONFIG_HAVE_GENERIC_GUP to CONFIG_HAVE_FAST_GUP Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 19:35   ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:35     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-11 19:35     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-06-21 14:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:28     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:50     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 11/16] mm: consolidate the get_user_pages* implementations Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-21 14:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:41     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:41     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25  7:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25  7:56       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 11:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25 11:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-25 11:56         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 12/16] mm: validate get_user_pages_fast flags Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40 ` [PATCH 13/16] mm: move the powerpc hugepd code to mm/gup.c Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:40   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41 ` [PATCH 14/16] mm: switch gup_hugepte to use try_get_compound_head Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41 ` [PATCH 15/16] mm: mark the page referenced in gup_hugepte Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41 ` [PATCH 16/16] mm: pass get_user_pages_fast iterator arguments in a structure Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-11 14:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-12  0:52   ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-12  0:52     ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-12  0:52     ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-12  1:09     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-12  1:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-12  1:09       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-20 12:18       ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-20 12:18         ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-20 12:18         ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-20 17:21         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-20 17:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-20 17:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-21  8:15           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2019-06-21  8:15             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-21  8:15             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-21 23:55             ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-21 23:55               ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-21 23:55               ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-21  8:29           ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-21  8:29             ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-21  8:29             ` Nicholas Piggin
2019-06-12  1:27     ` Nadav Amit
2019-06-12  1:27       ` Nadav Amit
2019-06-12  1:27       ` Nadav Amit
2019-06-20 11:45 ` switch the remaining architectures to use generic GUP v3 Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-20 11:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-20 11:45   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-21 14:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2019-06-21 14:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-06-25 14:36 switch the remaining architectures to use generic GUP v4 Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 01/16] mm: use untagged_addr() for get_user_pages_fast addresses Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 02/16] mm: simplify gup_fast_permitted Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 03/16] mm: lift the x86_32 PAE version of gup_get_pte to common code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 04/16] MIPS: use the generic get_user_pages_fast code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-29 14:37   ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-29 14:37     ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-29 14:37     ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 05/16] sh: add the missing pud_page definition Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 06/16] sh: use the generic get_user_pages_fast code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-29 15:15   ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-29 15:15     ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-29 15:15     ` Guenter Roeck
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 07/16] sparc64: add the missing pgd_page definition Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 08/16] sparc64: define untagged_addr() Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 09/16] sparc64: use the generic get_user_pages_fast code Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-17 21:59   ` Dmitry V. Levin
2019-07-17 21:59     ` Dmitry V. Levin
2019-07-17 22:04     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-17 22:04       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-17 23:30       ` Dmitry V. Levin
2019-07-17 23:30         ` Dmitry V. Levin
2019-07-18  0:17         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-18  0:17           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-07-18  1:21           ` David Miller
2019-07-18  1:21             ` David Miller
2019-07-18 21:43           ` David Miller
2019-07-18 21:43             ` David Miller
2019-07-18 21:14     ` David Miller
2019-07-18 21:14       ` David Miller
2019-07-19  6:00       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-19  6:00         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-07-24 19:32       ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-07-24 19:32         ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-07-24 20:13         ` David Miller
2019-07-24 20:13           ` David Miller
2019-07-25 18:33           ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-07-25 18:33             ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-07-25 22:52             ` David Miller
2019-07-25 22:52               ` David Miller
2019-07-28  2:09             ` David Miller
2019-07-28  2:09               ` David Miller
2019-07-28 20:00               ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-07-28 20:00                 ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-07-26 17:58     ` Khalid Aziz
2019-07-26 17:58       ` Khalid Aziz
2019-08-09 19:59     ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-08-09 19:59       ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-08-10  7:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-10  7:17         ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-10 19:36         ` Mikael Pettersson
2019-08-10 19:36           ` Mikael Pettersson
2019-08-11 20:30           ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-08-11 20:30             ` Anatoly Pugachev
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 10/16] mm: rename CONFIG_HAVE_GENERIC_GUP to CONFIG_HAVE_FAST_GUP Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 11/16] mm: reorder code blocks in gup.c Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 12/16] mm: consolidate the get_user_pages* implementations Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 13/16] mm: validate get_user_pages_fast flags Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 14/16] mm: move the powerpc hugepd code to mm/gup.c Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 19:37   ` Andrew Morton
2019-06-25 19:37     ` Andrew Morton
2019-06-25 19:37     ` Andrew Morton
2019-06-26  5:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-26  5:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-26  5:49       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 15/16] mm: switch gup_hugepte to use try_get_compound_head Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37 ` [PATCH 16/16] mm: mark the page referenced in gup_hugepte Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-06-25 14:37   ` Christoph Hellwig

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