From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>, "Y.b. Lu" <yangbo.lu@nxp.com>
Cc: dann frazier <dann.frazier@canonical.com>,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicoleotsuka@gmail.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] sdhci no longer detects SD cards on LX2160A
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 10:16:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190919091601.GH25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab90e9a4-052d-5a7b-bfae-f2f02f17f1b7@arm.com>
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 03:03:29PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 17/09/2019 14:49, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> > As already replied, v4 mode is not documented as being available on
> > the LX2160A - the bit in the control register is marked as "reserved".
> > This is as expected as it is documented that it is using a v3.00 of
> > the SDHCI standard, rather than v4.00.
> >
> > So, sorry, enabling "v4 mode" isn't a workaround in this scenario.
> >
> > Given that v4 mode is not mandatory, this shouldn't be a work-around.
> >
> > Given that it _does_ work some of the time with the table >4GB, then
> > this is not an addressing limitation.
>
> Yes, that's what "something totally different" usually means.
>
> > > However, the other difference between getting a single page directly from
> > > the page allocator vs. the CMA area is that accesses to the linear mapping
> > > of the CMA area are probably pretty rare, whereas for the single-page case
> > > it's much more likely that kernel tasks using adjacent pages could lead to
> > > prefetching of the descriptor page's cacheable alias. That could certainly
> > > explain how reverting that commit manages to hide an apparent coherency
> > > issue.
> >
> > Right, so how do we fix this?
>
> By describing the hardware correctly in the DT.
It would appear that it _is_ correctly described given the default
hardware configuration, but the driver sets a bit in a control
register that enables cache snooping.
Adding "dma-coherent" to the DT description does not seem to be the
correct solution, as we are reliant on the DT description and driver
implementation both agreeing, which is fragile.
>From what I can see, there isn't a way for a driver to say "I've made
this device is coherent now" and I suspect making the driver set the
DMA snoop bit depending on whether "dma-coherent" is present in DT or
not will cause data-corrupting regressions for other people.
So, we're back to where we started - what is the right solution to
this problem?
The only thing I can think is that the driver needs to do something
like:
WARN_ON(!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev));
in esdhc_of_enable_dma() as a first step, and ensuring that the snoop
bit matches the state of dev_is_dma_coherent(dev)? Is it permitted to
use dev_is_dma_coherent() in drivers - it doesn't seem to be part of
the normal DMA API?
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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>, "Y.b. Lu" <yangbo.lu@nxp.com>
Cc: dann frazier <dann.frazier@canonical.com>,
linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org,
Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
Nicolin Chen <nicoleotsuka@gmail.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] sdhci no longer detects SD cards on LX2160A
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 10:16:01 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190919091601.GH25745@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab90e9a4-052d-5a7b-bfae-f2f02f17f1b7@arm.com>
On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 03:03:29PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 17/09/2019 14:49, Russell King - ARM Linux admin wrote:
> > As already replied, v4 mode is not documented as being available on
> > the LX2160A - the bit in the control register is marked as "reserved".
> > This is as expected as it is documented that it is using a v3.00 of
> > the SDHCI standard, rather than v4.00.
> >
> > So, sorry, enabling "v4 mode" isn't a workaround in this scenario.
> >
> > Given that v4 mode is not mandatory, this shouldn't be a work-around.
> >
> > Given that it _does_ work some of the time with the table >4GB, then
> > this is not an addressing limitation.
>
> Yes, that's what "something totally different" usually means.
>
> > > However, the other difference between getting a single page directly from
> > > the page allocator vs. the CMA area is that accesses to the linear mapping
> > > of the CMA area are probably pretty rare, whereas for the single-page case
> > > it's much more likely that kernel tasks using adjacent pages could lead to
> > > prefetching of the descriptor page's cacheable alias. That could certainly
> > > explain how reverting that commit manages to hide an apparent coherency
> > > issue.
> >
> > Right, so how do we fix this?
>
> By describing the hardware correctly in the DT.
It would appear that it _is_ correctly described given the default
hardware configuration, but the driver sets a bit in a control
register that enables cache snooping.
Adding "dma-coherent" to the DT description does not seem to be the
correct solution, as we are reliant on the DT description and driver
implementation both agreeing, which is fragile.
From what I can see, there isn't a way for a driver to say "I've made
this device is coherent now" and I suspect making the driver set the
DMA snoop bit depending on whether "dma-coherent" is present in DT or
not will cause data-corrupting regressions for other people.
So, we're back to where we started - what is the right solution to
this problem?
The only thing I can think is that the driver needs to do something
like:
WARN_ON(!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev));
in esdhc_of_enable_dma() as a first step, and ensuring that the snoop
bit matches the state of dev_is_dma_coherent(dev)? Is it permitted to
use dev_is_dma_coherent() in drivers - it doesn't seem to be part of
the normal DMA API?
--
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
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2019-09-16 17:15 [REGRESSION] sdhci no longer detects SD cards on LX2160A Russell King - ARM Linux admin
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