From: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
To: MyungJoo Ham <myungjoo.ham@samsung.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: "Chanwoo Choi" <cw00.choi@samsung.com>,
"Leonard Crestez" <leonard.crestez@nxp.com>,
"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
"Artur Świgoń" <a.swigon@partner.samsung.com>,
"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
"Alexandre Bailon" <abailon@baylibre.com>,
"Georgi Djakov" <georgi.djakov@linaro.org>,
"Abel Vesa" <abel.vesa@nxp.com>, "Jacky Bai" <ping.bai@nxp.com>,
"Lukasz Luba" <l.luba@partner.samsung.com>,
"NXP Linux Team" <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/8] PM / devfreq: Introduce get_freq_range helper
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:29:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191011182907.GN87296@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191003181938.GJ87296@google.com>
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:19:38AM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 10:25:09PM +0300, Leonard Crestez wrote:
> > Moving handling of min/max freq to a single function and call it from
> > update_devfreq and for printing min/max freq values in sysfs.
> >
> > This changes the behavior of out-of-range min_freq/max_freq: clamping
> > is now done at evaluation time. This means that if an out-of-range
> > constraint is imposed by sysfs and it later becomes valid then it will
> > be enforced.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Leonard Crestez <leonard.crestez@nxp.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
> > ---
> > drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c | 110 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
> > 1 file changed, 62 insertions(+), 48 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c b/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c
> > index 87eff789ce24..2d63692903ff 100644
> > --- a/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c
> > +++ b/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c
> >
> > ...
> >
> > static ssize_t min_freq_show(struct device *dev, struct device_attribute *attr,
> > char *buf)
> > {
> > struct devfreq *df = to_devfreq(dev);
> > + unsigned long min_freq, max_freq;
> >
> > - return sprintf(buf, "%lu\n", max(df->scaling_min_freq, df->min_freq));
> > + mutex_lock(&df->lock);
> > + get_freq_range(df, &min_freq, &max_freq);
>
> With this min/max_freq shown aren't necessarily those set through sysfs,
> but the aggregated PM QoS values (plus OPP constraints).
>
> I did some testing with a WIP patch that converts devfreq_cooling.c to
> PM QoS. When reading sysfs min/max values to double check the limits
> set earlier I found it utterly confusing to see the sysfs min/max values
> fluctuating due to thermal throttling, and not being able to see the
> configured values.
>
> Looks like cpufreq does the same, but I'm not convinced this is a good
> idea. I think we want to display the values set by userspace, as done
> before managing the limits through PM QoS. Viresh, was this change of
> userspace visible behavior done intentionally for cpufreq?
ping
Viresh / devfreq maintainers:
Do we really want to expose through sysfs the potentially constantly
changing aggregate min/max values, instead of those set by userspace?
At least for cpufreq that's a divergence from previous behavior, and
from a userspace perspective it seems odd that you can't reliably read
back the limit set by userspace.
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
To: MyungJoo Ham <myungjoo.ham@samsung.com>,
Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: "Artur Świgoń" <a.swigon@partner.samsung.com>,
"Abel Vesa" <abel.vesa@nxp.com>,
"Saravana Kannan" <saravanak@google.com>,
linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, "NXP Linux Team" <linux-imx@nxp.com>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk@kernel.org>,
"Lukasz Luba" <l.luba@partner.samsung.com>,
"Chanwoo Choi" <cw00.choi@samsung.com>,
"Kyungmin Park" <kyungmin.park@samsung.com>,
"Alexandre Bailon" <abailon@baylibre.com>,
"Leonard Crestez" <leonard.crestez@nxp.com>,
"Georgi Djakov" <georgi.djakov@linaro.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
"Jacky Bai" <ping.bai@nxp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 6/8] PM / devfreq: Introduce get_freq_range helper
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2019 11:29:07 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191011182907.GN87296@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191003181938.GJ87296@google.com>
On Thu, Oct 03, 2019 at 11:19:38AM -0700, Matthias Kaehlcke wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 10:25:09PM +0300, Leonard Crestez wrote:
> > Moving handling of min/max freq to a single function and call it from
> > update_devfreq and for printing min/max freq values in sysfs.
> >
> > This changes the behavior of out-of-range min_freq/max_freq: clamping
> > is now done at evaluation time. This means that if an out-of-range
> > constraint is imposed by sysfs and it later becomes valid then it will
> > be enforced.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Leonard Crestez <leonard.crestez@nxp.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
> > ---
> > drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c | 110 +++++++++++++++++++++-----------------
> > 1 file changed, 62 insertions(+), 48 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c b/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c
> > index 87eff789ce24..2d63692903ff 100644
> > --- a/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c
> > +++ b/drivers/devfreq/devfreq.c
> >
> > ...
> >
> > static ssize_t min_freq_show(struct device *dev, struct device_attribute *attr,
> > char *buf)
> > {
> > struct devfreq *df = to_devfreq(dev);
> > + unsigned long min_freq, max_freq;
> >
> > - return sprintf(buf, "%lu\n", max(df->scaling_min_freq, df->min_freq));
> > + mutex_lock(&df->lock);
> > + get_freq_range(df, &min_freq, &max_freq);
>
> With this min/max_freq shown aren't necessarily those set through sysfs,
> but the aggregated PM QoS values (plus OPP constraints).
>
> I did some testing with a WIP patch that converts devfreq_cooling.c to
> PM QoS. When reading sysfs min/max values to double check the limits
> set earlier I found it utterly confusing to see the sysfs min/max values
> fluctuating due to thermal throttling, and not being able to see the
> configured values.
>
> Looks like cpufreq does the same, but I'm not convinced this is a good
> idea. I think we want to display the values set by userspace, as done
> before managing the limits through PM QoS. Viresh, was this change of
> userspace visible behavior done intentionally for cpufreq?
ping
Viresh / devfreq maintainers:
Do we really want to expose through sysfs the potentially constantly
changing aggregate min/max values, instead of those set by userspace?
At least for cpufreq that's a divergence from previous behavior, and
from a userspace perspective it seems odd that you can't reliably read
back the limit set by userspace.
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-10-02 19:25 [PATCH v9 0/8] PM / devfreq: Add dev_pm_qos support Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 1/8] PM / devfreq: Don't fail devfreq_dev_release if not in list Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 2/8] PM / devfreq: Fix devfreq_notifier_call returning errno Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 21:24 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-02 21:24 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-02 23:47 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 23:47 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-31 2:29 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 2:29 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 3/8] PM / devfreq: Set scaling_max_freq to max on OPP notifier error Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 21:33 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-02 21:33 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-31 2:21 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 2:21 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 4/8] PM / devfreq: Move more initialization before registration Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-31 3:15 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 3:15 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 13:31 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-31 13:31 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-11-01 8:31 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-11-01 8:31 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-11-01 14:36 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-11-01 14:36 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 5/8] PM / devfreq: Don't take lock in devfreq_add_device Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 6/8] PM / devfreq: Introduce get_freq_range helper Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-03 18:19 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-03 18:19 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-03 19:16 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-03 19:16 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-03 19:36 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-03 19:36 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-11 18:29 ` Matthias Kaehlcke [this message]
2019-10-11 18:29 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-31 2:44 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 2:44 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 2:42 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 2:42 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 13:12 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-31 13:12 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 7/8] PM / devfreq: Add PM QoS support Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 22:22 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-02 22:22 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-04 17:04 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-04 17:04 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-31 3:01 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 3:01 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 13:21 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-31 13:21 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` [PATCH v9 8/8] PM / devfreq: Use PM QoS for sysfs min/max_freq Leonard Crestez
2019-10-02 19:25 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-04 17:05 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-04 17:05 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-31 3:10 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-31 3:10 ` Chanwoo Choi
2019-10-23 14:06 ` [PATCH v9 0/8] PM / devfreq: Add dev_pm_qos support Leonard Crestez
2019-10-23 14:06 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-23 16:34 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-23 16:34 ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2019-10-24 16:21 ` Leonard Crestez
2019-10-24 16:21 ` Leonard Crestez
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