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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Yunfeng Ye <yeyunfeng@huawei.com>
Cc: "kstewart@linuxfoundation.org" <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	hushiyuan@huawei.com,
	"catalin.marinas@arm.com" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linfeilong@huawei.com, David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"wuyun.wu@huawei.com" <wuyun.wu@huawei.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] arm64: psci: Reduce waiting time of cpu_psci_cpu_kill()
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:25:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191016102545.GA11386@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab42357e-f4f9-9019-e8d9-7e9bfe106e9e@huawei.com>

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:22:23AM +0800, Yunfeng Ye wrote:
>
>
> On 2019/10/16 0:23, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 07:21:17PM +0800, Yunfeng Ye wrote:
> >> If psci_ops.affinity_info() fails, it will sleep 10ms, which will not
> >> take so long in the right case. Use usleep_range() instead of msleep(),
> >> reduce the waiting time, and give a chance to busy wait before sleep.
> >
> > Can you elaborate on "the right case" please? It's not clear to me
> > exactly what problem you're solving here.
> >
> The situation is that when the power is off, we have a battery to save some
> information, but the battery power is limited, so we reduce the power consumption
> by turning off the cores, and need fastly to complete the core shutdown. However, the
> time of cpu_psci_cpu_kill() will take 10ms. We have tested the time that it does not
> need 10ms, and most case is about 50us-500us. if we reduce the time of cpu_psci_cpu_kill(),
> we can reduce 10% - 30% of the total time.
>

Have you checked why PSCI AFFINITY_INFO not returning LEVEL_OFF quickly
then ? We wait for upto 5s in cpu_wait_death(worst case) before cpu_kill
is called from __cpu_die.

Moreover I don't understand the argument here. The cpu being killed
will be OFF, as soon as it can and firmware controls that and this
change is not related to CPU_OFF. And this CPU calling cpu_kill can
sleep and 10ms is good to enter idle states if it's idle saving power,
so I fail to map the power saving you mention above.

> So change msleep (10) to usleep_range() to reduce the waiting time. In addition,
> we don't want to be scheduled during the sleeping time, some threads may take a
> long time and don't give up the CPU, which affects the time of core shutdown,
> Therefore, we add a chance to busy-wait max 1ms.
>

On the other hand, usleep_range reduces the timer interval and hence
increases the chance of the callee CPU not to enter deeper idle states.

What am I missing here ? What's the use case or power off situation
you are talking about above ?

>
> > I've also added Sudeep to the thread, since I'd like his ack on the change.
> >

Thanks Will.

--
Regards,
Sudeep

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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Yunfeng Ye <yeyunfeng@huawei.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>,
	"catalin.marinas@arm.com" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"kstewart@linuxfoundation.org" <kstewart@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"gregkh@linuxfoundation.org" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org" <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"wuyun.wu@huawei.com" <wuyun.wu@huawei.com>,
	hushiyuan@huawei.com, linfeilong@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] arm64: psci: Reduce waiting time of cpu_psci_cpu_kill()
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2019 11:25:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191016102545.GA11386@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab42357e-f4f9-9019-e8d9-7e9bfe106e9e@huawei.com>

On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 11:22:23AM +0800, Yunfeng Ye wrote:
>
>
> On 2019/10/16 0:23, Will Deacon wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 07:21:17PM +0800, Yunfeng Ye wrote:
> >> If psci_ops.affinity_info() fails, it will sleep 10ms, which will not
> >> take so long in the right case. Use usleep_range() instead of msleep(),
> >> reduce the waiting time, and give a chance to busy wait before sleep.
> >
> > Can you elaborate on "the right case" please? It's not clear to me
> > exactly what problem you're solving here.
> >
> The situation is that when the power is off, we have a battery to save some
> information, but the battery power is limited, so we reduce the power consumption
> by turning off the cores, and need fastly to complete the core shutdown. However, the
> time of cpu_psci_cpu_kill() will take 10ms. We have tested the time that it does not
> need 10ms, and most case is about 50us-500us. if we reduce the time of cpu_psci_cpu_kill(),
> we can reduce 10% - 30% of the total time.
>

Have you checked why PSCI AFFINITY_INFO not returning LEVEL_OFF quickly
then ? We wait for upto 5s in cpu_wait_death(worst case) before cpu_kill
is called from __cpu_die.

Moreover I don't understand the argument here. The cpu being killed
will be OFF, as soon as it can and firmware controls that and this
change is not related to CPU_OFF. And this CPU calling cpu_kill can
sleep and 10ms is good to enter idle states if it's idle saving power,
so I fail to map the power saving you mention above.

> So change msleep (10) to usleep_range() to reduce the waiting time. In addition,
> we don't want to be scheduled during the sleeping time, some threads may take a
> long time and don't give up the CPU, which affects the time of core shutdown,
> Therefore, we add a chance to busy-wait max 1ms.
>

On the other hand, usleep_range reduces the timer interval and hence
increases the chance of the callee CPU not to enter deeper idle states.

What am I missing here ? What's the use case or power off situation
you are talking about above ?

>
> > I've also added Sudeep to the thread, since I'd like his ack on the change.
> >

Thanks Will.

--
Regards,
Sudeep

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-16 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-21 11:21 [PATCH V2] arm64: psci: Reduce waiting time of cpu_psci_cpu_kill() Yunfeng Ye
2019-09-21 11:21 ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-09  4:45 ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-09  4:45   ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-16 15:32   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-10-16 15:32     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-10-17 13:26     ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-17 13:26       ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-17 13:54       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-10-17 13:54         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-10-17 14:24         ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-17 14:24           ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-17 14:00       ` David Laight
2019-10-17 14:00         ` David Laight
2019-10-17 14:19         ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-17 14:19           ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-17 14:25           ` David Laight
2019-10-17 14:25             ` David Laight
2019-10-15 16:23 ` Will Deacon
2019-10-15 16:23   ` Will Deacon
2019-10-16  3:22   ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-16  3:22     ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-16 10:25     ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2019-10-16 10:25       ` Sudeep Holla
2019-10-16 11:29       ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-16 11:29         ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-16 15:05         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-10-16 15:05           ` Sudeep Holla
2019-10-17 14:08           ` Yunfeng Ye
2019-10-17 14:08             ` Yunfeng Ye

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