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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
To: speck@linutronix.de
Subject: [MODERATED] Re: [PATCH 9/9] TAA 9
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2019 18:58:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191024165828.GF14115@zn.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191024161016.dnqexztns5xaiwh2@treble>

On Thu, Oct 24, 2019 at 11:10:16AM -0500, speck for Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> I think this is misleading.  tsx=on doesn't make you vulnerable to TAA,
> because we still the TAA mitigation.

Changed to:

          Therefore TSX is not enabled by default (aka tsx=off). An admin
          might override this decision by tsx=on the command line parameter.
          Even with TSX enabled, the kernel will attempt to enable the best 
          possible TAA mitigation setting depending on the microcode available 
          for the particular machine.

> tsx=on vs tsx=auto is not a security consideration, but rather a
> performance one.  With tsx=auto you disable TSX on some TAA-affected
> CPUs so you don't have to pay the performance penalty of the MDS
> mitigations.

By performance penalty you mean, when you have TSX disabled on those
parts, you'll save yourself the VERW which should be taking care of TAA
too?

> 
> > +
> > +config X86_INTEL_TSX_MODE_OFF
> > +	bool "off"
> > +	help
> > +	  TSX is always disabled - equals tsx=off command line parameter.
> 
> Define "always" :-)

Changed to:

"TSX is disabled if possible - equals to tsx=off command line parameter."

> Not exactly :-)  This also leaves TSX enabled on MDS vulnerable parts.

Your point being, the MD_CLEAR which takes care of TAA too?

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

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-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-24 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-24  8:20 [MODERATED] [PATCH 0/9] TAA 0 Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23  8:45 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 1/9] TAA 1 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 15:22   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 16:23     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 16:42       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-23  8:52 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 2/9] TAA 2 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23  9:01 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 3/9] TAA 3 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 15:30   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 16:33     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 16:43       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 17:39   ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-24 19:45     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 19:59       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 20:05         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 20:14           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 20:36             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 20:43               ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-24 20:55                 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 20:44               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 20:07       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-24 20:17         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 22:38           ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-25  6:03             ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-25  7:25               ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-25  7:17             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-25  9:08               ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-27  7:48                 ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-27  7:49                   ` [MODERATED] [AUTOREPLY] [MODERATED] [AUTOREPLY] Automatic reply: " James, Hengameh M
2019-10-24 19:47     ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-30 13:28   ` Greg KH
2019-10-30 14:48     ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-30 17:24     ` [MODERATED] " Pawan Gupta
2019-10-30 19:27       ` Greg KH
2019-10-30 19:44         ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-11-01  9:35           ` Greg KH
2019-11-01 13:15             ` [MODERATED] " Borislav Petkov
2019-11-01 14:33               ` Greg KH
2019-11-01 18:42             ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-23  9:30 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 4/9] TAA 4 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 15:32   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 16:43     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 17:15       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 17:23         ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 17:27           ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 17:34           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 18:23       ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-24 18:56         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 18:59           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 19:13           ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-24 19:49             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 20:48               ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-25  9:12                 ` Andrew Cooper
2019-10-25  0:49   ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-25  7:36     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 10:19 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 5/9] TAA 5 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 18:30   ` [MODERATED] " Greg KH
2019-10-23 10:23 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 6/9] TAA 6 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-23 10:28 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 7/9] TAA 7 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 15:35   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 16:42     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 18:20       ` Jiri Kosina
2019-10-24 19:53         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 20:02           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 20:08             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 10:32 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 8/9] TAA 8 Pawan Gupta
2019-10-24 16:03   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 17:35     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-24 18:11       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 18:55         ` Pawan Gupta
2019-10-25  8:04         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-23 10:35 ` [MODERATED] [PATCH 9/9] TAA 9 Michal Hocko
2019-10-24 16:10   ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf
2019-10-24 16:58     ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2019-10-25 10:47       ` [MODERATED] Re: ***UNCHECKED*** " Michal Hocko
2019-10-25 13:05       ` [MODERATED] " Josh Poimboeuf

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