From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
Cc: Prashant Bhole <prashantbhole.linux@gmail.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>, Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 00/18] virtio_net XDP offload
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:29:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191128024912-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191127154014.2b91ecc2@cakuba.netronome.com>
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 03:40:14PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > For better or worse that's how userspace is written.
>
> HW offload requires modifying the user space, too. The offload is not
> transparent. Do you know that?
It's true, offload of program itself isn't transparent. Adding a 3rd
interface (software/hardware/host) isn't welcome though, IMHO.
--
MST
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
Cc: Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
Prashant Bhole <prashantbhole.linux@gmail.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>,
"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 00/18] virtio_net XDP offload
Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 10:29:38 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191128024912-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191127154014.2b91ecc2@cakuba.netronome.com>
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 03:40:14PM -0800, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > For better or worse that's how userspace is written.
>
> HW offload requires modifying the user space, too. The offload is not
> transparent. Do you know that?
It's true, offload of program itself isn't transparent. Adding a 3rd
interface (software/hardware/host) isn't welcome though, IMHO.
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-12-02 15:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-11-26 10:07 [RFC net-next 00/18] virtio_net XDP offload Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 01/18] bpf: introduce bpf_prog_offload_verifier_setup() Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 02/18] net: core: rename netif_receive_generic_xdp() to do_generic_xdp_core() Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 03/18] net: core: export do_xdp_generic_core() Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 04/18] tuntap: check tun_msg_ctl type at necessary places Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 05/18] vhost_net: user tap recvmsg api to access ptr ring Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 06/18] tuntap: remove usage of ptr ring in vhost_net Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 07/18] tun: set offloaded xdp program Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-01 16:35 ` David Ahern
2019-12-01 16:35 ` David Ahern
2019-12-02 2:44 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-02 2:44 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-01 16:45 ` David Ahern
2019-12-01 16:45 ` David Ahern
2019-12-02 2:47 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-02 2:47 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-09 0:24 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-09 0:24 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 08/18] tun: run offloaded XDP program in Tx path Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-12-01 16:39 ` David Ahern
2019-12-01 16:39 ` David Ahern
2019-12-01 20:56 ` David Miller
2019-12-01 20:56 ` David Miller
2019-12-01 21:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-01 21:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-12-01 21:54 ` David Miller
2019-12-01 21:54 ` David Miller
2019-12-02 2:56 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-02 2:56 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-02 2:45 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-02 2:45 ` Jason Wang
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 09/18] tun: add a way to inject Tx path packet into Rx path Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 10/18] tun: handle XDP_TX action of offloaded program Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 11/18] tun: run xdp prog when tun is read from file interface Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 12/18] virtio-net: store xdp_prog in device Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 13/18] virtio_net: use XDP attachment helpers Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 14/18] virtio_net: add XDP prog offload infrastructure Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 15/18] virtio_net: implement XDP prog offload functionality Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-27 20:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-27 20:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-28 2:53 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-28 2:53 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 16/18] bpf: export function __bpf_map_get Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 17/18] virtio_net: implment XDP map offload functionality Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 20:19 ` kbuild test robot
2019-11-26 10:07 ` [RFC net-next 18/18] virtio_net: restrict bpf helper calls from offloaded program Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 10:07 ` Prashant Bhole
2019-11-26 20:35 ` [RFC net-next 00/18] virtio_net XDP offload Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-26 20:35 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-27 2:59 ` Jason Wang
2019-11-27 2:59 ` Jason Wang
2019-11-27 19:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-27 19:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-28 3:41 ` Jason Wang
2019-11-28 3:41 ` Jason Wang
2019-11-27 20:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-27 20:32 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-27 23:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-11-27 23:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2019-12-02 15:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2019-12-02 15:29 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2019-11-28 3:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-28 3:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2019-11-28 4:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-11-28 4:18 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-01 16:54 ` David Ahern
2019-12-01 16:54 ` David Ahern
2019-12-02 2:48 ` Jason Wang
2019-12-02 2:48 ` Jason Wang
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