From: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: sjpark@amazon.com, axboe@kernel.dk, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
pdurrant@amazon.com, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: [PATCH v5 1/2] xenbus/backend: Add memory pressure handler callback
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 12:52:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191211115208.14583-1-sj38.park@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191211105112.GK980@Air-de-Roger> (raw)
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:51:12 +0100 "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:16:35 +0100 "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/include/xen/xenbus.h b/include/xen/xenbus.h
> > > > index 869c816d5f8c..cdb075e4182f 100644
> > > > --- a/include/xen/xenbus.h
> > > > +++ b/include/xen/xenbus.h
> > > > @@ -104,6 +104,7 @@ struct xenbus_driver {
> > > > struct device_driver driver;
> > > > int (*read_otherend_details)(struct xenbus_device *dev);
> > > > int (*is_ready)(struct xenbus_device *dev);
> > > > + unsigned (*reclaim)(struct xenbus_device *dev);
> > >
> > > ... hence I wonder why it's returning an unsigned when it's just
> > > ignored.
> > >
> > > IMO it should return an int to signal errors, and the return should be
> > > ignored.
> >
> > I first thought similarly and set the callback to return something. However,
> > as this callback is called to simply notify the memory pressure and ask the
> > driver to free its memory as many as possible, I couldn't easily imagine what
> > kind of errors that need to be handled by its caller can occur in the callback,
> > especially because current blkback's callback implementation has no such error.
> > So, if you and others agree, I would like to simply set the return type to
> > 'void' for now and defer the error handling to a future change.
>
> Yes, I also wondered the same, but seeing you returned an integer I
> assumed there was interest in returning some kind of value. If there's
> nothing to return let's just make it void.
>
> > >
> > > Also, I think it would preferable for this function to take an extra
> > > parameter to describe the resource the driver should attempt to free
> > > (ie: memory or interrupts for example). I'm however not able to find
> > > any existing Linux type to describe such resources.
> >
> > Yes, such extention would be the right direction. However, because there is no
> > existing Linux type to describe the type of resources to reclaim as you also
> > mentioned, there could be many different opinions about its implementation
> > detail. In my opinion, it could be also possible to simply add another
> > callback for another resource type. That said, because currently we have an
> > use case and an implementation for the memory pressure only, I would like to
> > let it as is for now and defer the extension as a future work, if you and
> > others have no objection.
>
> Ack, can I please ask the callback to be named reclaim_memory or some
> such then?
Yes, I will change the name.
Thanks,
SeongJae Park
>
> Thanks, Roger.
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: SeongJae Park <sj38.park@gmail.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, sjpark@amazon.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
pdurrant@amazon.com, SeongJae Park <sjpark@amazon.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v5 1/2] xenbus/backend: Add memory pressure handler callback
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 12:52:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191211115208.14583-1-sj38.park@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191211105112.GK980@Air-de-Roger> (raw)
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 11:51:12 +0100 "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 11:16:35 +0100 "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com> wrote:
> > > > diff --git a/include/xen/xenbus.h b/include/xen/xenbus.h
> > > > index 869c816d5f8c..cdb075e4182f 100644
> > > > --- a/include/xen/xenbus.h
> > > > +++ b/include/xen/xenbus.h
> > > > @@ -104,6 +104,7 @@ struct xenbus_driver {
> > > > struct device_driver driver;
> > > > int (*read_otherend_details)(struct xenbus_device *dev);
> > > > int (*is_ready)(struct xenbus_device *dev);
> > > > + unsigned (*reclaim)(struct xenbus_device *dev);
> > >
> > > ... hence I wonder why it's returning an unsigned when it's just
> > > ignored.
> > >
> > > IMO it should return an int to signal errors, and the return should be
> > > ignored.
> >
> > I first thought similarly and set the callback to return something. However,
> > as this callback is called to simply notify the memory pressure and ask the
> > driver to free its memory as many as possible, I couldn't easily imagine what
> > kind of errors that need to be handled by its caller can occur in the callback,
> > especially because current blkback's callback implementation has no such error.
> > So, if you and others agree, I would like to simply set the return type to
> > 'void' for now and defer the error handling to a future change.
>
> Yes, I also wondered the same, but seeing you returned an integer I
> assumed there was interest in returning some kind of value. If there's
> nothing to return let's just make it void.
>
> > >
> > > Also, I think it would preferable for this function to take an extra
> > > parameter to describe the resource the driver should attempt to free
> > > (ie: memory or interrupts for example). I'm however not able to find
> > > any existing Linux type to describe such resources.
> >
> > Yes, such extention would be the right direction. However, because there is no
> > existing Linux type to describe the type of resources to reclaim as you also
> > mentioned, there could be many different opinions about its implementation
> > detail. In my opinion, it could be also possible to simply add another
> > callback for another resource type. That said, because currently we have an
> > use case and an implementation for the memory pressure only, I would like to
> > let it as is for now and defer the extension as a future work, if you and
> > others have no objection.
>
> Ack, can I please ask the callback to be named reclaim_memory or some
> such then?
Yes, I will change the name.
Thanks,
SeongJae Park
>
> Thanks, Roger.
>
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-12-10 8:06 [PATCH v5 0/2] xenbus/backend: Add a memory pressure handler callback SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 8:06 ` [Xen-devel] " SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 8:06 ` [PATCH v5 1/2] xenbus/backend: Add " SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 8:06 ` [Xen-devel] " SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 8:17 ` Jürgen Groß
2019-12-10 8:17 ` [Xen-devel] " Jürgen Groß
2019-12-10 10:16 ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-10 10:16 ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-10 10:21 ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-10 10:21 ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-10 10:24 ` SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 10:24 ` SeongJae Park
2019-12-11 3:50 ` SeongJae Park
2019-12-11 3:50 ` [Xen-devel] " SeongJae Park
2019-12-11 10:51 ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-11 10:51 ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-11 11:52 ` SeongJae Park [this message]
2019-12-11 11:52 ` SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 8:06 ` [PATCH v5 2/2] xen/blkback: Squeeze page pools if a memory pressure is detected SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 8:06 ` [Xen-devel] " SeongJae Park
2019-12-10 11:04 ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-10 11:04 ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-11 4:08 ` SeongJae Park
2019-12-11 4:08 ` [Xen-devel] " SeongJae Park
2019-12-11 11:14 ` Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-11 11:14 ` [Xen-devel] " Roger Pau Monné
2019-12-11 11:52 ` Re: " SeongJae Park
2019-12-11 11:52 ` [Xen-devel] " SeongJae Park
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