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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ARM: dts: am437x-gp-evm: add HDMI support
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:28:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191213122845.GD4860@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36d8dde1-1a76-5a5f-2a41-8bc52dfcf2fa@ti.com>

Hi Tomi,

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 02:04:30PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 13/12/2019 13:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 12:56:31PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> >> On 13/12/2019 12:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think the correct way would be to have DRM framework understand that we have two displays, which
> >>>> are mutually exclusive, and the display pipeline drivers would have the means to switch the gpio.
> >>>> And that the display setup could be communicated properly to the userspace, and the userspace would
> >>>> understand it. I don't think any of those exists.
> >>>
> >>> Isn't this what possible_clones in drm_encoder is for ? It notifies
> >>> userspace of mutual exclusions between encoders.
> >>
> >> Hmm, how would that work here? Isn't encoder cloning about having two encoders, which take the input
> >> from the same video source, and then outputting to two displays?
> > 
> > That's the idea. If you have one encoder for HDMI and one for the panel,
> > you can mark them as non-clonable, and then only one of the two can be
> > active at a time.
> 
> We have a single DPI output from the SoC. That goes to the panel, or to SiI9022 bridge, depending on 
> the GPIO switch.
> 
> So... In the DT file, we would have multiple endpoints in the same output port in DSS, one going to 
> the panel, one to the SiI9022? omapdrm could then create two encoders, one abstracting the DPI 
> output and the connection to the panel, one abstracting the DPI output and SiI9022?

That's the idea, yes.

> And then someone would need to handle the GPIO, and set it based on the output used. These kind of 
> gpios are always difficult, as they don't belong anywhere =).

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20191211061911.238393-5-hsinyi@chromium.org/

Still, the infrastructure in omapdrm would need quite a bit of work.
We're just about to get a helper layer for linear pipelines merged, and
we already need to go one step further :-)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

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From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, mark.rutland@arm.com,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ARM: dts: am437x-gp-evm: add HDMI support
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:28:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191213122845.GD4860@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36d8dde1-1a76-5a5f-2a41-8bc52dfcf2fa@ti.com>

Hi Tomi,

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 02:04:30PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 13/12/2019 13:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 12:56:31PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> >> On 13/12/2019 12:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think the correct way would be to have DRM framework understand that we have two displays, which
> >>>> are mutually exclusive, and the display pipeline drivers would have the means to switch the gpio.
> >>>> And that the display setup could be communicated properly to the userspace, and the userspace would
> >>>> understand it. I don't think any of those exists.
> >>>
> >>> Isn't this what possible_clones in drm_encoder is for ? It notifies
> >>> userspace of mutual exclusions between encoders.
> >>
> >> Hmm, how would that work here? Isn't encoder cloning about having two encoders, which take the input
> >> from the same video source, and then outputting to two displays?
> > 
> > That's the idea. If you have one encoder for HDMI and one for the panel,
> > you can mark them as non-clonable, and then only one of the two can be
> > active at a time.
> 
> We have a single DPI output from the SoC. That goes to the panel, or to SiI9022 bridge, depending on 
> the GPIO switch.
> 
> So... In the DT file, we would have multiple endpoints in the same output port in DSS, one going to 
> the panel, one to the SiI9022? omapdrm could then create two encoders, one abstracting the DPI 
> output and the connection to the panel, one abstracting the DPI output and SiI9022?

That's the idea, yes.

> And then someone would need to handle the GPIO, and set it based on the output used. These kind of 
> gpios are always difficult, as they don't belong anywhere =).

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20191211061911.238393-5-hsinyi@chromium.org/

Still, the infrastructure in omapdrm would need quite a bit of work.
We're just about to get a helper layer for linear pipelines merged, and
we already need to go one step further :-)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
To: Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] ARM: dts: am437x-gp-evm: add HDMI support
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 14:28:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191213122845.GD4860@pendragon.ideasonboard.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <36d8dde1-1a76-5a5f-2a41-8bc52dfcf2fa@ti.com>

Hi Tomi,

On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 02:04:30PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> On 13/12/2019 13:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 13, 2019 at 12:56:31PM +0200, Tomi Valkeinen wrote:
> >> On 13/12/2019 12:42, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> >>
> >>>> I think the correct way would be to have DRM framework understand that we have two displays, which
> >>>> are mutually exclusive, and the display pipeline drivers would have the means to switch the gpio.
> >>>> And that the display setup could be communicated properly to the userspace, and the userspace would
> >>>> understand it. I don't think any of those exists.
> >>>
> >>> Isn't this what possible_clones in drm_encoder is for ? It notifies
> >>> userspace of mutual exclusions between encoders.
> >>
> >> Hmm, how would that work here? Isn't encoder cloning about having two encoders, which take the input
> >> from the same video source, and then outputting to two displays?
> > 
> > That's the idea. If you have one encoder for HDMI and one for the panel,
> > you can mark them as non-clonable, and then only one of the two can be
> > active at a time.
> 
> We have a single DPI output from the SoC. That goes to the panel, or to SiI9022 bridge, depending on 
> the GPIO switch.
> 
> So... In the DT file, we would have multiple endpoints in the same output port in DSS, one going to 
> the panel, one to the SiI9022? omapdrm could then create two encoders, one abstracting the DPI 
> output and the connection to the panel, one abstracting the DPI output and SiI9022?

That's the idea, yes.

> And then someone would need to handle the GPIO, and set it based on the output used. These kind of 
> gpios are always difficult, as they don't belong anywhere =).

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20191211061911.238393-5-hsinyi@chromium.org/

Still, the infrastructure in omapdrm would need quite a bit of work.
We're just about to get a helper layer for linear pipelines merged, and
we already need to go one step further :-)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart
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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-25 13:10 [PATCH 1/4] ARM: dts: am437x-gp-evm: add HDMI support Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10 ` [PATCH 2/4] ARM: dts: am437x-epos-evm: " Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10 ` [PATCH 3/4] ARM: dts: dra76-evm: add HDMI output Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:10   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:11 ` [PATCH 4/4] ARM: dts: am57xx-idk-common: add HDMI to the common dtsi Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:11   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-11-25 13:11   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-12 17:21 ` [PATCH 1/4] ARM: dts: am437x-gp-evm: add HDMI support Tony Lindgren
2019-12-12 17:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-12 17:21   ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-12 17:31   ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-12 17:31     ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-12 17:31     ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-13  9:24     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13  9:24       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13  9:24       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 10:42       ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 10:42         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 10:42         ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 10:56         ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 10:56           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 10:56           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 11:42           ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 11:42             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 11:42             ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 12:04             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 12:04               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 12:04               ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 12:28               ` Laurent Pinchart [this message]
2019-12-13 12:28                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 12:28                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2019-12-13 12:33                 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 12:33                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 12:33                   ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 14:57                   ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-13 14:57                     ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-13 14:57                     ` Tony Lindgren
2019-12-13 12:36     ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 12:36       ` Tomi Valkeinen
2019-12-13 12:36       ` Tomi Valkeinen

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