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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	dray@redhat.com, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	andres@anarazel.de, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Subject: Re: Upcoming: Notifications, FS notifications and fsinfo()
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 18:46:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200406184626.GE2147@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjW735UE+byK1xsM9UvpF2ubh7bCMaAOwz575U7hRCKyA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:34:08AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:17 AM Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 04:30:24PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > >
> > > nfs-utils/support/misc/mountpoint.c:check_is_mountpoint() stats the file
> > > and ".." and returns true if they have different st_dev or the same
> > > st_ino.  Comparing mount ids sounds better.
> >
> > BTW, this traditional st_dev+st_ino way is not reliable for bind mounts.
> > For mountpoint(1) we search the directory in /proc/self/mountinfo.
> 
> These days you should probably use openat2() with RESOLVE_NO_XDEV.
> 
> No need for any mountinfo or anything like that. Just look up the
> pathname and say "don't cross mount-points", and you'll get an error
> if it's a mount crossing lookup.

OK, I can't see why that wouldn't work, thanks.

--b.

> 
> So this kind of thing is _not_ an argument for another kernel querying
> interface.  We got a new (and better) model for a lot of this.
> 
>               Linus

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
	Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@0pointer.de>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>, Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	dray@redhat.com, Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>,
	andres@anarazel.de, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@cyphar.com>
Subject: Re: Upcoming: Notifications, FS notifications and fsinfo()
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 14:46:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200406184626.GE2147@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjW735UE+byK1xsM9UvpF2ubh7bCMaAOwz575U7hRCKyA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 09:34:08AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 2:17 AM Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 04:30:24PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > >
> > > nfs-utils/support/misc/mountpoint.c:check_is_mountpoint() stats the file
> > > and ".." and returns true if they have different st_dev or the same
> > > st_ino.  Comparing mount ids sounds better.
> >
> > BTW, this traditional st_dev+st_ino way is not reliable for bind mounts.
> > For mountpoint(1) we search the directory in /proc/self/mountinfo.
> 
> These days you should probably use openat2() with RESOLVE_NO_XDEV.
> 
> No need for any mountinfo or anything like that. Just look up the
> pathname and say "don't cross mount-points", and you'll get an error
> if it's a mount crossing lookup.

OK, I can't see why that wouldn't work, thanks.

--b.

> 
> So this kind of thing is _not_ an argument for another kernel querying
> interface.  We got a new (and better) model for a lot of this.
> 
>               Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-06 18:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 199+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-30 13:58 Upcoming: Notifications, FS notifications and fsinfo() David Howells
2020-03-30 13:58 ` David Howells
2020-03-30 14:31 ` [GIT PULL] General notification queue and key notifications David Howells
2020-03-30 14:31   ` David Howells
2020-03-31  6:51   ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-03-31  6:51     ` Stephen Rothwell
2020-06-02 15:55   ` David Howells
2020-06-02 15:55     ` David Howells
2020-06-03  2:15     ` Ian Kent
2020-06-03  2:15       ` Ian Kent
2020-06-08  0:49       ` Ian Kent
2020-06-08  0:49         ` Ian Kent
2020-06-10  9:56     ` Christian Brauner
2020-06-10  9:56       ` Christian Brauner
2020-06-10 11:12     ` Karel Zak
2020-06-10 11:12       ` Karel Zak
2020-06-12 21:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-12 21:32         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-13 13:04         ` David Howells
2020-06-13 13:04           ` David Howells
2020-06-13 16:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-13 16:47             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-13 17:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-13 17:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-13 19:22           ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-06-13 19:22             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-06-12 22:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-12 22:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2020-06-13 13:24         ` David Howells
2020-06-13 13:24           ` David Howells
2020-06-13 18:00     ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-06-13 18:00       ` pr-tracker-bot
2020-06-17  1:15     ` Williams, Dan J
2020-06-17  1:15       ` Williams, Dan J
2020-06-17  1:15       ` Williams, Dan J
2020-06-23 23:38       ` Dan Williams
2020-06-23 23:38         ` Dan Williams
2020-06-23 23:38         ` Dan Williams
2020-06-24  0:55         ` David Howells
2020-06-24  0:55           ` David Howells
2020-06-24  0:55           ` David Howells
2020-06-24  1:03           ` Dan Williams
2020-06-24  1:03             ` Dan Williams
2020-06-24  1:03             ` Dan Williams
2020-06-24  1:17             ` David Howells
2020-06-24  1:17               ` David Howells
2020-06-24  1:17               ` David Howells
2020-03-30 14:36 ` [GIT PULL] Mount and superblock notifications David Howells
2020-03-30 14:36   ` David Howells
2020-04-04 21:13   ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-04 21:13     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-05 22:52     ` Andres Freund
2020-04-05 22:52       ` Andres Freund
2020-03-30 14:43 ` [GIT PULL] fsinfo: Filesystem information query David Howells
2020-03-30 14:43   ` David Howells
2020-03-30 20:28 ` Upcoming: Notifications, FS notifications and fsinfo() Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-30 20:28   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31  9:21   ` Karel Zak
2020-03-31  9:21     ` Karel Zak
2020-03-31 17:31   ` David Howells
2020-03-31 17:31     ` David Howells
2020-03-31 19:42     ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31 19:42       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31 19:47       ` David Howells
2020-03-31 19:47         ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:14       ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:14         ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:23         ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:23           ` David Howells
2020-03-30 21:17 ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-30 21:17   ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-31  5:11   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31  5:11     ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31  8:15     ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-31  8:15       ` Christian Brauner
2020-03-31  8:34       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31  8:34         ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31  8:34     ` Karel Zak
2020-03-31  8:34       ` Karel Zak
2020-03-31  8:56       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31  8:56         ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31  9:49         ` Karel Zak
2020-03-31  9:49           ` Karel Zak
2020-03-31 12:25         ` Lennart Poettering
2020-03-31 12:25           ` Lennart Poettering
2020-03-31 15:10           ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31 15:10             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-03-31 15:24             ` Lennart Poettering
2020-03-31 15:24               ` Lennart Poettering
2020-03-31 21:56           ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:56             ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:54       ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:54         ` David Howells
2020-04-01  8:43         ` Karel Zak
2020-04-01  8:43           ` Karel Zak
2020-03-31  7:22   ` Lennart Poettering
2020-03-31  7:22     ` Lennart Poettering
2020-03-31 21:52   ` David Howells
2020-03-31 21:52     ` David Howells
2020-04-01  9:04     ` Karel Zak
2020-04-01  9:04       ` Karel Zak
2020-04-01 13:34       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 13:34         ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 13:55         ` David Howells
2020-04-01 13:55           ` David Howells
2020-04-01 13:58           ` David Howells
2020-04-01 13:58             ` David Howells
2020-04-01 15:25             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 15:25               ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 16:01               ` David Howells
2020-04-01 16:01                 ` David Howells
2020-04-01 16:30                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 16:30                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:22                   ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:22                     ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:24                     ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:24                       ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:24                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:24                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:42                       ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:42                         ` David Howells
2020-04-03  9:11               ` Karel Zak
2020-04-03  9:11                 ` Karel Zak
2020-04-01 14:41     ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-01 14:41       ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-01 15:33       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 15:33         ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 16:06         ` David Howells
2020-04-01 16:06           ` David Howells
2020-04-01 16:40           ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-01 16:40             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02  2:52             ` Ian Kent
2020-04-02  2:52               ` Ian Kent
2020-04-02 13:52               ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 13:52                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 14:36                 ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-02 14:36                   ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-02 15:22                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:22                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:28                     ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-02 15:28                       ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-02 15:35                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:35                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:50                         ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-02 15:50                           ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-02 17:20                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 17:20                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-03 11:08                             ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 11:08                               ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 11:48                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-03 11:48                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-03 15:01                                 ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 15:01                                   ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-06  9:22                                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-06  9:22                                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-06 17:29                                     ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-06 17:29                                       ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-07  2:21                                       ` Ian Kent
2020-04-07  2:21                                         ` Ian Kent
2020-04-07 13:59                                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-07 13:59                                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-07 15:53                                           ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-07 15:53                                             ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-07 16:06                                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-07 16:06                                               ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-02 15:51                       ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:51                         ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:56                         ` David Howells
2020-04-02 15:56                           ` David Howells
2020-04-03  1:44                 ` Ian Kent
2020-04-03  1:44                   ` Ian Kent
2020-04-03 11:11                   ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 11:11                     ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 11:38                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-03 11:38                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-03 12:05                       ` Richard Weinberger
2020-04-03 12:05                         ` Richard Weinberger
2020-04-03 15:12                       ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 15:12                         ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 15:36                         ` David Howells
2020-04-03 15:36                           ` David Howells
2020-04-03 15:41                           ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 15:41                             ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-03 20:30                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-04-03 20:30                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-04-06  8:35                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-06  8:35                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2020-04-06 16:07                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-04-06 16:07                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-04-06  9:17                           ` Karel Zak
2020-04-06  9:17                             ` Karel Zak
2020-04-06 16:34                             ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-06 16:34                               ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-06 18:46                               ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2020-04-06 18:46                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2020-04-06 18:48                               ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-06 18:48                                 ` Lennart Poettering
2020-04-08  3:36                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2020-04-08  3:36                                   ` Linus Torvalds

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