Re: [PATCH 1/3] kexec: Prevent removal of memory in use by a loaded kexec image

[Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>]

On 04/14/20 at 04:49pm, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>>> The root cause is kexec-ed kernel is targeted at hotpluggable memory
> >>>>> region. Just avoiding the movable area can fix it. In kexec_file_load(),
> >>>>> just checking or picking those unmovable region to put kernel/initrd in
> >>>>> function locate_mem_hole_callback() can fix it. The page or pageblock's
> >>>>> zone is movable or not, it's easy to know. This fix doesn't need to
> >>>>> bother other component.
> >>>>
> >>>> I don't fully agree. E.g., just because memory is onlined to ZONE_NORMAL
> >>>> does not imply that it cannot get offlined and removed e.g., this is
> >>>> heavily used on ppc64, with 16MB sections.
> >>>
> >>> Really? I just know there are two kinds of mem hoplug in ppc, but don't
> >>> know the details. So in this case, is there any flag or a way to know
> >>> those memory block are hotpluggable? I am curious how those kernel data
> >>> is avoided to be put in this area. Or ppc just freely uses it for kernel
> >>> data or user space data, then try to migrate when hot remove?
> >>
> >> See
> >> arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries/hotplug-memory.c:dlpar_memory_remove_by_count()
> >>
> >> Under DLAPR, it can remove memory in LMB granularity, which is usually
> >> 16MB (== single section on ppc64). DLPAR will directly online all
> >> hotplugged memory (LMBs) from the kernel using device_online(), which
> >> will go to ZONE_NORMAL.
> >>
> >> When trying to remove memory, it simply scans for offlineable 16MB
> >> memory blocks (==section == LMB), offlines and removes them. No need for
> >> the movable zone and all the involved issues.
> > 
> > Yes, this is a different one, thanks for pointing it out. It sounds like
> > balloon driver in virt platform, doesn't it?
> 
> With DLPAR there is a hypervisor involved (which manages the actual HW
> DIMMs), so yes.
> 
> > 
> > Avoiding to put kexec kernel into movable zone can't solve this DLPAR
> > case as you said.
> > 
> >>
> >> Now, the interesting question is, can we have LMBs added during boot
> >> (not via add_memory()), that will later be removed via remove_memory().
> >> IIRC, we had BUGs related to that, so I think yes. If a section contains
> >> no unmovable allocations (after boot), it can get removed.
> > 
> > I do want to ask this question. If we can add LMB into system RAM, then
> > reload kexec can solve it. 
> > 
> > Another better way is adding a common function to filter out the
> > movable zone when search position for kexec kernel, use a arch specific
> > funciton to filter out DLPAR memory blocks for ppc only. Over there,
> > we can simply use for_each_drmem_lmb() to do that.
> 
> I was thinking about something similar. Maybe something like a notifier
> that can be used to test if selected memory can be used for kexec

Not sure if I get the notifier idea clearly. If you mean 

1) Add a common function to pick memory in unmovable zone;
2) Let DLPAR, balloon register with notifier;
3) In the common function, ask notified part to check if the picked
   unmovable memory is available for locating kexec kernel;

Sounds doable to me, and not complicated.

> images. It would apply to
> 
> - arm64 and filter out all hotadded memory (IIRC, only boot memory can
>   be used).

Do you mean hot added memory after boot can't be recognized and added
into system RAM on arm64?


> - powerpc to filter out all LMBs that can be removed (assuming not all
>   memory corresponds to LMBs that can be removed, otherwise we're in
>   trouble ... :) )
> - virtio-mem to filter out all memory it added.
> - hyper-v to filter out partially backed memory blocks (esp. the last
>   memory block it added and only partially backed it by memory).
> 
> This would make it work for kexec_file_load(), however, I do wonder how
> we would want to approach that from userspace kexec-tools when handling
> it from kexec_load().

Let's make kexec_file_load work firstly. Since this work is only first
step to make kexec-ed kernel not break memory hotplug. After kexec
rebooting, the KASLR may locate kernel into hotpluggable area too.


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