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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Max Gurtovoy <maxg@mellanox.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, James Smart <jsmart2021@gmail.com>,
	sagi@grimberg.me, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	shlomin@mellanox.com, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org,
	israelr@mellanox.com, vladimirk@mellanox.com,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, idanb@mellanox.com,
	jgg@mellanox.com, oren@mellanox.com, kbusch@kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/17] nvme-fabrics: Allow user enabling metadata/T10-PI support
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:06:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424070647.GB24059@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <639d6edd-ffa6-f08a-9fa2-047ca97c47ee@mellanox.com>

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:30:44AM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>
> On 4/23/2020 8:54 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 01:39:26AM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>>> it's a bit late for me now so I probably wrote non standard sentence above.
>>>
>>> BUT what I meant to say is I would like to give the user an option to
>>> decide whether use E2E protection or not (of course a controller can
>>> control protected and non-protected namespaces :) )
>> I don't really have a problem with an opt-out, but I'd like to apply it
>> consistently over all transports.
>>
>>> AFAIK, there is no option to format a ns in NVMf (at least for RDMA there
>>> is only 1 lbaf exposed by the target) so i'm not sure how exactly this will
>>> work.
>> The NVMe protocol Format NVM support is independent of the transport.
>
> Ok, but it's not supported in Linux.
>
> Are you saying we should implement Format NVM for fabrics ? or stay 
> consistent for NVMf (and not nvmf + pci) ?

I see no reason not to support a simple Format NVM for our fabrics target
implementation.  But that isn't the point - you don't really need Format
as you can also control it from configfs in your series.  So for the
initial version I don't think we need Format NVM, but I don't mind
adding it later.

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Max Gurtovoy <maxg@mellanox.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	James Smart <jsmart2021@gmail.com>,
	linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org, kbusch@kernel.org,
	sagi@grimberg.me, martin.petersen@oracle.com,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, idanb@mellanox.com, axboe@kernel.dk,
	vladimirk@mellanox.com, oren@mellanox.com, shlomin@mellanox.com,
	israelr@mellanox.com, jgg@mellanox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/17] nvme-fabrics: Allow user enabling metadata/T10-PI support
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:06:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424070647.GB24059@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <639d6edd-ffa6-f08a-9fa2-047ca97c47ee@mellanox.com>

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 10:30:44AM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>
> On 4/23/2020 8:54 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 01:39:26AM +0300, Max Gurtovoy wrote:
>>> it's a bit late for me now so I probably wrote non standard sentence above.
>>>
>>> BUT what I meant to say is I would like to give the user an option to
>>> decide whether use E2E protection or not (of course a controller can
>>> control protected and non-protected namespaces :) )
>> I don't really have a problem with an opt-out, but I'd like to apply it
>> consistently over all transports.
>>
>>> AFAIK, there is no option to format a ns in NVMf (at least for RDMA there
>>> is only 1 lbaf exposed by the target) so i'm not sure how exactly this will
>>> work.
>> The NVMe protocol Format NVM support is independent of the transport.
>
> Ok, but it's not supported in Linux.
>
> Are you saying we should implement Format NVM for fabrics ? or stay 
> consistent for NVMf (and not nvmf + pci) ?

I see no reason not to support a simple Format NVM for our fabrics target
implementation.  But that isn't the point - you don't really need Format
as you can also control it from configfs in your series.  So for the
initial version I don't think we need Format NVM, but I don't mind
adding it later.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-27 17:15 [PATCH 00/17 V5] nvme-rdma/nvmet-rdma: Add metadata/T10-PI support Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15 ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 1/1] nvme-cli/fabrics: Add pi_enable param to connect cmd Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 01/17] nvme: introduce namespace features flag Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 11:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 11:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:53     ` James Smart
2020-04-21 15:53       ` James Smart
2020-04-21 18:11       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 18:11         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 02/17] nvme: Add has_md field to the nvme_req structure Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 11:59   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 11:59     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 03/17] nvme: Enforce extended LBA format for fabrics metadata Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 12:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 12:08     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 04/17] nvme: introduce max_integrity_segments ctrl attribute Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 12:09   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 12:09     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 05/17] nvme-fabrics: Allow user enabling metadata/T10-PI support Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 12:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 12:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:17   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:17     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-22 22:07     ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-22 22:07       ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-22 22:24       ` James Smart
2020-04-22 22:24         ` James Smart
2020-04-22 22:39         ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-22 22:39           ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-23  5:54           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23  5:54             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23  7:30             ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-23  7:30               ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-24  7:06               ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2020-04-24  7:06                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-26  9:48                 ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-26  9:48                   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-27  6:04                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-27  6:04                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-27 13:52                     ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-27 13:52                       ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-27 13:54                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-27 13:54                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-28  9:18                         ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-28  9:18                           ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-23  5:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23  5:53         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 06/17] nvme: introduce NVME_INLINE_MD_SG_CNT Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 12:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 12:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 07/17] nvme-rdma: Introduce nvme_rdma_sgl structure Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 12:13   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 12:13     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 08/17] nvme-rdma: add metadata/T10-PI support Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 12:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 12:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23  9:22     ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-23  9:22       ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-24  7:09       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24  7:09         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-26 10:04         ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-26 10:04           ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 09/17] nvmet: prepare metadata request Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 15:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:21     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 10/17] nvmet: add metadata characteristics for a namespace Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 15:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 11/17] nvmet: Rename nvmet_rw_len to nvmet_rw_data_len Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 12/17] nvmet: Rename nvmet_check_data_len to nvmet_check_transfer_len Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 13/17] nvme: Add Metadata Capabilities enumerations Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 15:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:24     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23 12:09     ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-23 12:09       ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-24  7:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24  7:12         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 14/17] nvmet: Add metadata/T10-PI support Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 15:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23 12:39     ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-23 12:39       ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-24  7:14       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24  7:14         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-26 10:50         ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-26 10:50           ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-27  6:06           ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-27  6:06             ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 15/17] nvmet: Add metadata support for block devices Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 15:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:33     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-23 17:25     ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-23 17:25       ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-24  7:54       ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-24  7:54         ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 16/17] RDMA/rw: Expose maximal page list for a device per 1 MR Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15 ` [PATCH 17/17] nvmet-rdma: Add metadata/T10-PI support Max Gurtovoy
2020-03-27 17:15   ` Max Gurtovoy
2020-04-21 15:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-04-21 15:37     ` Christoph Hellwig

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