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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Jon Derrick <jonathan.derrick@intel.com>
Cc: linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Russell Currey <ruscur@russell.cc>,
	Sam Bobroff <sbobroff@linux.ibm.com>,
	Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>,
	Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan 
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Frederick Lawler <fred@fredlawl.com>,
	Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>,
	"Patel, Mayurkumar" <mayurkumar.patel@intel.com>,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI/AER: Allow Native AER Host Bridges to use AER
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:30:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424233016.GA218665@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1587418630-13562-2-git-send-email-jonathan.derrick@intel.com>

Hi Jon,

I'm glad you raised this because I think the way we handle
FIRMWARE_FIRST is really screwed up.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 03:37:09PM -0600, Jon Derrick wrote:
> Some platforms have a mix of ports whose capabilities can be negotiated
> by _OSC, and some ports which are not described by ACPI and instead
> managed by Native drivers. The existing Firmware-First HEST model can
> incorrectly tag these Native, Non-ACPI ports as Firmware-First managed
> ports by advertising the HEST Global Flag and matching the type and
> class of the port (aer_hest_parse).
> 
> If the port requests Native AER through the Host Bridge's capability
> settings, the AER driver should honor those settings and allow the port
> to bind. This patch changes the definition of Firmware-First to exclude
> ports whose Host Bridges request Native AER.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jon Derrick <jonathan.derrick@intel.com>
> ---
>  drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c | 3 +++
>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c b/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
> index f4274d3..30fbd1f 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
> @@ -314,6 +314,9 @@ int pcie_aer_get_firmware_first(struct pci_dev *dev)
>  	if (pcie_ports_native)
>  		return 0;
>  
> +	if (pci_find_host_bridge(dev->bus)->native_aer)
> +		return 0;

I hope we don't have to complicate pcie_aer_get_firmware_first() by
adding this "native_aer" check here.  I'm not sure what we actually
*should* do based on FIRMWARE_FIRST, but I don't think the current
uses really make sense.

I think Linux makes too many assumptions based on the FIRMWARE_FIRST
bit.  The ACPI spec really only says (ACPI v6.3, sec 18.3.2.4):

  If set, FIRMWARE_FIRST indicates to the OSPM that system firmware
  will handle errors from this source first.

  If FIRMWARE_FIRST is set in the flags field, the Enabled field [of
  the HEST AER structure] is ignored by the OSPM.

I do not see anything there about who owns the AER Capability, but
Linux assumes that if FIRMWARE_FIRST is set, firmware must own the AER
Capability.  I think that's reading too much into the spec.

We already have _OSC, which *does* explicitly talk about who owns the
AER Capability, and I think we should rely on that.  If firmware
doesn't want the OS to touch the AER Capability, it should decline to
give ownership to the OS via _OSC.

>  	if (!dev->__aer_firmware_first_valid)
>  		aer_set_firmware_first(dev);
>  	return dev->__aer_firmware_first;
> -- 
> 1.8.3.1
> 

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Jon Derrick <jonathan.derrick@intel.com>
Cc: Kuppuswamy Sathyanarayanan
	<sathyanarayanan.kuppuswamy@linux.intel.com>,
	Rajat Jain <rajatja@google.com>,
	Frederick Lawler <fred@fredlawl.com>,
	Sam Bobroff <sbobroff@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"Patel, Mayurkumar" <mayurkumar.patel@intel.com>,
	Oliver O'Halloran <oohall@gmail.com>,
	Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI/AER: Allow Native AER Host Bridges to use AER
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:30:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200424233016.GA218665@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1587418630-13562-2-git-send-email-jonathan.derrick@intel.com>

Hi Jon,

I'm glad you raised this because I think the way we handle
FIRMWARE_FIRST is really screwed up.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 03:37:09PM -0600, Jon Derrick wrote:
> Some platforms have a mix of ports whose capabilities can be negotiated
> by _OSC, and some ports which are not described by ACPI and instead
> managed by Native drivers. The existing Firmware-First HEST model can
> incorrectly tag these Native, Non-ACPI ports as Firmware-First managed
> ports by advertising the HEST Global Flag and matching the type and
> class of the port (aer_hest_parse).
> 
> If the port requests Native AER through the Host Bridge's capability
> settings, the AER driver should honor those settings and allow the port
> to bind. This patch changes the definition of Firmware-First to exclude
> ports whose Host Bridges request Native AER.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Jon Derrick <jonathan.derrick@intel.com>
> ---
>  drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c | 3 +++
>  1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c b/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
> index f4274d3..30fbd1f 100644
> --- a/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
> +++ b/drivers/pci/pcie/aer.c
> @@ -314,6 +314,9 @@ int pcie_aer_get_firmware_first(struct pci_dev *dev)
>  	if (pcie_ports_native)
>  		return 0;
>  
> +	if (pci_find_host_bridge(dev->bus)->native_aer)
> +		return 0;

I hope we don't have to complicate pcie_aer_get_firmware_first() by
adding this "native_aer" check here.  I'm not sure what we actually
*should* do based on FIRMWARE_FIRST, but I don't think the current
uses really make sense.

I think Linux makes too many assumptions based on the FIRMWARE_FIRST
bit.  The ACPI spec really only says (ACPI v6.3, sec 18.3.2.4):

  If set, FIRMWARE_FIRST indicates to the OSPM that system firmware
  will handle errors from this source first.

  If FIRMWARE_FIRST is set in the flags field, the Enabled field [of
  the HEST AER structure] is ignored by the OSPM.

I do not see anything there about who owns the AER Capability, but
Linux assumes that if FIRMWARE_FIRST is set, firmware must own the AER
Capability.  I think that's reading too much into the spec.

We already have _OSC, which *does* explicitly talk about who owns the
AER Capability, and I think we should rely on that.  If firmware
doesn't want the OS to touch the AER Capability, it should decline to
give ownership to the OS via _OSC.

>  	if (!dev->__aer_firmware_first_valid)
>  		aer_set_firmware_first(dev);
>  	return dev->__aer_firmware_first;
> -- 
> 1.8.3.1
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24 23:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-20 21:37 [PATCH v2 0/2] Honoring Native AER/DPC Host Bridges Jon Derrick
2020-04-20 21:37 ` Jon Derrick
2020-04-20 21:37 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] PCI/AER: Allow Native AER Host Bridges to use AER Jon Derrick
2020-04-20 21:37   ` Jon Derrick
2020-04-22 22:48   ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-04-22 22:48     ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-04-23 15:11     ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-23 15:11       ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-24 23:30   ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2020-04-24 23:30     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-04-27 16:11     ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-27 16:11       ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-27 22:14       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-04-27 22:14         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-04-20 21:37 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] PCI/DPC: Allow Native DPC Host Bridges to use DPC Jon Derrick
2020-04-20 21:37   ` Jon Derrick
2020-04-22 22:50   ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-04-22 22:50     ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-04-23 15:11     ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-23 15:11       ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-25 20:46       ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-04-25 20:46         ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-04-27 15:15         ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-27 15:15           ` Derrick, Jonathan
2020-04-27 15:43           ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan
2020-04-27 15:43             ` Kuppuswamy, Sathyanarayanan

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