From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
Subject: [Intel-wired-lan] [next-queue RFC 0/4] ethtool: Add support for frame preemption
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 20:45:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200517184514.GD606317@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+h21hrg_CeD2-zT+7v3b3hPRFaeggmZC9NqPp+soedCYwG63A@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 01:51:19PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 01:19, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 00:03:39 +0300
> >
> > > As to why this doesn't go to tc but to ethtool: why would it go to tc?
> >
> > Maybe you can't %100 duplicate the on-the-wire special format and
> > whatever, but the queueing behavior ABSOLUTELY you can emulate in
> > software.
> >
> > And then you have the proper hooks added for HW offload which can
> > do the on-the-wire stuff.
> >
> > That's how we do these things, not with bolted on ethtool stuff.
>
> When talking about frame preemption in the way that it is defined in
> 802.1Qbu and 802.3br, it says or assumes nothing about queuing. It
> describes the fact that there are 2 MACs per interface, 1 MAC dealing
> with some traffic classes and the other dealing with the rest.
I did not follow the previous discussion, but i assume you talked
about modelling it in Linux as two MACs? Why was that approach not
followed?
Andrew
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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@intel.com>,
intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
Jeff Kirsher <jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com>,
netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
Po Liu <po.liu@nxp.com>, Murali Karicheri <m-karicheri2@ti.com>,
Jose Abreu <Jose.Abreu@synopsys.com>
Subject: Re: [next-queue RFC 0/4] ethtool: Add support for frame preemption
Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 20:45:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200517184514.GD606317@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+h21hrg_CeD2-zT+7v3b3hPRFaeggmZC9NqPp+soedCYwG63A@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 01:51:19PM +0300, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> On Sun, 17 May 2020 at 01:19, David Miller <davem@davemloft.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 00:03:39 +0300
> >
> > > As to why this doesn't go to tc but to ethtool: why would it go to tc?
> >
> > Maybe you can't %100 duplicate the on-the-wire special format and
> > whatever, but the queueing behavior ABSOLUTELY you can emulate in
> > software.
> >
> > And then you have the proper hooks added for HW offload which can
> > do the on-the-wire stuff.
> >
> > That's how we do these things, not with bolted on ethtool stuff.
>
> When talking about frame preemption in the way that it is defined in
> 802.1Qbu and 802.3br, it says or assumes nothing about queuing. It
> describes the fact that there are 2 MACs per interface, 1 MAC dealing
> with some traffic classes and the other dealing with the rest.
I did not follow the previous discussion, but i assume you talked
about modelling it in Linux as two MACs? Why was that approach not
followed?
Andrew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-17 18:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-16 1:29 [Intel-wired-lan] [next-queue RFC 0/4] ethtool: Add support for frame preemption Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 1:29 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 1:29 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [next-queue RFC 1/4] ethtool: Add support for configuring " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 1:29 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 15:27 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 15:27 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-16 1:29 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [next-queue RFC 2/4] ethtool: Add support for configuring frame preemption via netlink Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 1:29 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 12:27 ` Dan Carpenter
2020-05-18 12:27 ` Dan Carpenter
2020-05-16 1:29 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [next-queue RFC 3/4] igc: Add support for configuring frame preemption Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 1:29 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 16:36 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 16:36 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-16 1:29 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [next-queue RFC 4/4] igc: Add support for exposing frame preemption stats registers Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 1:29 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-20 12:50 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Murali Karicheri
2020-05-20 12:50 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-16 9:33 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [next-queue RFC 0/4] ethtool: Add support for frame preemption Michal Kubecek
2020-05-16 9:33 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-05-18 19:34 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 19:34 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 22:40 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Andre Guedes
2020-05-19 22:40 ` Andre Guedes
2020-05-19 22:53 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 22:53 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-16 20:37 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Miller
2020-05-16 20:37 ` David Miller
2020-05-16 21:03 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-16 21:03 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-16 22:19 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Miller
2020-05-16 22:19 ` David Miller
2020-05-17 10:51 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-17 10:51 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-17 18:45 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2020-05-17 18:45 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-17 19:04 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-17 19:04 ` Vladimir Oltean
2020-05-18 19:05 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 19:05 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 20:56 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 20:56 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 22:06 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 22:06 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 22:22 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 22:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 23:05 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 23:05 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-18 23:09 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-18 23:09 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-05-20 21:42 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Andre Guedes
2020-05-20 21:42 ` Andre Guedes
2020-05-20 22:35 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-20 22:35 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 16:34 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 16:34 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 17:49 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 17:49 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-17 15:06 ` Michael Walle
2020-05-18 13:36 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 20:41 ` Michael Walle
2020-05-19 14:53 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 14:53 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 15:32 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 15:32 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 16:11 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 16:11 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-19 22:39 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Andre Guedes
2020-05-19 22:39 ` Andre Guedes
2020-05-19 23:37 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-19 23:37 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-20 12:47 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Murali Karicheri
2020-05-20 12:47 ` Murali Karicheri
2020-05-20 12:52 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Joergen Andreasen
2020-05-20 12:52 ` Joergen Andreasen
2020-05-20 21:32 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Vinicius Costa Gomes
2020-05-20 21:32 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-05-19 9:10 [Intel-wired-lan] " Po Liu
2020-05-19 16:43 ` Vinicius Costa Gomes
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