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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Daeho Jeong <daeho43@gmail.com>
Cc: Daeho Jeong <daehojeong@google.com>,
	kernel-team@android.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] f2fs: add F2FS_IOC_SEC_TRIM_FILE ioctl
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 20:15:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610031532.GA6286@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACOAw_xEZ+au9yhFerq9amkRO62Dzxj7h71gEc=i16ReYu5xrg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:05:46AM +0900, Daeho Jeong wrote:
> > > Added a new ioctl to send discard commands or/and zero out
> > > to whole data area of a regular file for security reason.
> >
> > With this ioctl available, what is the exact procedure to write and then later
> > securely erase a file on f2fs?  In particular, how can the user prevent f2fs
> > from making multiple copies of file data blocks as part of garbage collection?
> >
> 
> To prevent the file data from garbage collecting, the user needs to
> use pinfile ioctl and fallocate system call after creating the file.
> The sequence is like below.
> 1. create an empty file
> 2. pinfile
> 3. fallocate()

Is that persistent?  So the file will never be moved afterwards?

Is there a place where this is (or should be) documented?

> > > +
> > > +     if (f2fs_readonly(sbi->sb))
> > > +             return -EROFS;
> >
> > Isn't this redundant with mnt_want_write_file()?
> >
> > Also, shouldn't write access to the file be required, i.e.
> > (filp->f_mode & FMODE_WRITE)?  Then the f2fs_readonly() and
> > mnt_want_write_file() checks would be unnecessary.
> >
> 
> Using FMODE_WRITE is more proper for this case, since we're going to
> modify the data. But I think mnt_want_write_file() is still required
> to prevent the filesystem from freezing or something else.

Right, the freezing check is actually still necessary.  But getting write access
to the mount is not necessary.  I think you should use file_start_write() and
file_end_write(), like vfs_write() does.

> >
> > > +
> > > +     if (get_user(flags, (u32 __user *)arg))
> > > +             return -EFAULT;
> > > +     if (!(flags & F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK))
> > > +             return -EINVAL;
> >
> > Need to reject unknown flags:
> >
> >         if (flags & ~F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK)
> >                 return -EINVAL;
> 
> I needed a different thing here. This was to check neither discard nor
> zeroing out are not here. But we still need to check unknown flags,
> too.
> The below might be better.
> if (!flags || flags & ~F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK)
>        return -EINVAL;

Sure, but please put parentheses around the second clause:

	if (flags == 0 || (flags & ~F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK))
		return -EINVAL;

- Eric


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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Daeho Jeong <daeho43@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, kernel-team@android.com,
	Daeho Jeong <daehojeong@google.com>
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] f2fs: add F2FS_IOC_SEC_TRIM_FILE ioctl
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2020 20:15:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200610031532.GA6286@sol.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACOAw_xEZ+au9yhFerq9amkRO62Dzxj7h71gEc=i16ReYu5xrg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jun 10, 2020 at 11:05:46AM +0900, Daeho Jeong wrote:
> > > Added a new ioctl to send discard commands or/and zero out
> > > to whole data area of a regular file for security reason.
> >
> > With this ioctl available, what is the exact procedure to write and then later
> > securely erase a file on f2fs?  In particular, how can the user prevent f2fs
> > from making multiple copies of file data blocks as part of garbage collection?
> >
> 
> To prevent the file data from garbage collecting, the user needs to
> use pinfile ioctl and fallocate system call after creating the file.
> The sequence is like below.
> 1. create an empty file
> 2. pinfile
> 3. fallocate()

Is that persistent?  So the file will never be moved afterwards?

Is there a place where this is (or should be) documented?

> > > +
> > > +     if (f2fs_readonly(sbi->sb))
> > > +             return -EROFS;
> >
> > Isn't this redundant with mnt_want_write_file()?
> >
> > Also, shouldn't write access to the file be required, i.e.
> > (filp->f_mode & FMODE_WRITE)?  Then the f2fs_readonly() and
> > mnt_want_write_file() checks would be unnecessary.
> >
> 
> Using FMODE_WRITE is more proper for this case, since we're going to
> modify the data. But I think mnt_want_write_file() is still required
> to prevent the filesystem from freezing or something else.

Right, the freezing check is actually still necessary.  But getting write access
to the mount is not necessary.  I think you should use file_start_write() and
file_end_write(), like vfs_write() does.

> >
> > > +
> > > +     if (get_user(flags, (u32 __user *)arg))
> > > +             return -EFAULT;
> > > +     if (!(flags & F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK))
> > > +             return -EINVAL;
> >
> > Need to reject unknown flags:
> >
> >         if (flags & ~F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK)
> >                 return -EINVAL;
> 
> I needed a different thing here. This was to check neither discard nor
> zeroing out are not here. But we still need to check unknown flags,
> too.
> The below might be better.
> if (!flags || flags & ~F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK)
>        return -EINVAL;

Sure, but please put parentheses around the second clause:

	if (flags == 0 || (flags & ~F2FS_TRIM_FILE_MASK))
		return -EINVAL;

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-10  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-09  6:01 [f2fs-dev] [PATCH] f2fs: add F2FS_IOC_SEC_TRIM_FILE ioctl Daeho Jeong
2020-06-09  6:01 ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-09 16:51 ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2020-06-09 16:51   ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-10  2:05   ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-10  2:05     ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-10  3:15     ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2020-06-10  3:15       ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-10  3:55       ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-10  3:55         ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-10 23:31         ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-10 23:31           ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-10 23:53           ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-10 23:53             ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-11  0:00             ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-11  0:00               ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-11  0:23               ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-11  0:23                 ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-11  1:56                 ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-11  1:56                   ` Eric Biggers
2020-06-11  2:05                   ` Daeho Jeong
2020-06-11  2:05                     ` Daeho Jeong
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-06-11  3:08 Daeho Jeong

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