From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Karol Herbst <kherbst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>,
Jon Hunter <jonathanh-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
Dmitry Osipenko <digetx-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:40:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200626114040.GA3143884@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACO55ttfwQDwnO8ep=YKBgo+HYBg=zLDLfBKtH67MrqKzMWw_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 01:06:58PM +0200, Karol Herbst wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 3:03 PM Mikko Perttunen <cyndis-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > # Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI proposal
> >
> > This is a proposal for a stable UAPI for Host1x and TegraDRM, to replace
> > the current TegraDRM UAPI that is behind `STAGING` and quite obsolete in
> > many ways.
> >
> > I haven't written any implementation yet -- I'll do that once there is
> > some agreement on the high-level design.
> >
> > Current open items:
> >
> > * The syncpoint UAPI allows userspace to create sync_file FDs with
> > arbitrary syncpoint fences. dma_fence code currently seems to assume all
> > fences will be signaled, which would not necessarily be the case with
> > this interface.
> > * Previously present GEM IOCTLs (GEM_CREATE, GEM_MMAP) are not present.
> > Not sure if they are still needed.
> >
>
> Hi, as this wasn't addressed here (and sorry if I missed it): is there
> an open source userspace making use of this UAPI? Because this is
> something which needs to be seen before it can be included at all.
There's a set of commits that implement an earlier draft here:
https://github.com/thierryreding/linux/tree/for-5.6/drm-tegra-destage-abi
and corresponding changes to libdrm to make use of that and implement
tests using the various generations of VIC here:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~tagr/drm/log/
Before actually jumping to an implementation we wanted to go over the
design a bit more to avoid wasting a lot of work, like we've done in
the past. Turns out it isn't easy to get everyone to agree on a good
ABI. Who would've thought? =)
I expect that once the discussion around the ABI settles Mikko will
start on implementing this ABI in the kernel and we'll update the
libdrm patches to make use of the new ABI as well.
Thierry
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From: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
To: Karol Herbst <kherbst@redhat.com>
Cc: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>,
David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
gustavo@padovan.org, dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com,
"linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:40:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200626114040.GA3143884@ulmo> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACO55ttfwQDwnO8ep=YKBgo+HYBg=zLDLfBKtH67MrqKzMWw_w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 01:06:58PM +0200, Karol Herbst wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 3:03 PM Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi> wrote:
> >
> > # Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI proposal
> >
> > This is a proposal for a stable UAPI for Host1x and TegraDRM, to replace
> > the current TegraDRM UAPI that is behind `STAGING` and quite obsolete in
> > many ways.
> >
> > I haven't written any implementation yet -- I'll do that once there is
> > some agreement on the high-level design.
> >
> > Current open items:
> >
> > * The syncpoint UAPI allows userspace to create sync_file FDs with
> > arbitrary syncpoint fences. dma_fence code currently seems to assume all
> > fences will be signaled, which would not necessarily be the case with
> > this interface.
> > * Previously present GEM IOCTLs (GEM_CREATE, GEM_MMAP) are not present.
> > Not sure if they are still needed.
> >
>
> Hi, as this wasn't addressed here (and sorry if I missed it): is there
> an open source userspace making use of this UAPI? Because this is
> something which needs to be seen before it can be included at all.
There's a set of commits that implement an earlier draft here:
https://github.com/thierryreding/linux/tree/for-5.6/drm-tegra-destage-abi
and corresponding changes to libdrm to make use of that and implement
tests using the various generations of VIC here:
https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~tagr/drm/log/
Before actually jumping to an implementation we wanted to go over the
design a bit more to avoid wasting a lot of work, like we've done in
the past. Turns out it isn't easy to get everyone to agree on a good
ABI. Who would've thought? =)
I expect that once the discussion around the ABI settles Mikko will
start on implementing this ABI in the kernel and we'll update the
libdrm patches to make use of the new ABI as well.
Thierry
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2020-06-23 12:09 [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-23 12:09 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <9b06b7ec-f952-2561-7afb-5653514cd5d3-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-24 20:55 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 20:55 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <867dea06-8741-82e8-3e26-9a017ad9057a-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 9:17 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 9:17 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 22:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 22:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <7cc0d47b-024a-263e-3b63-1d1184b462b3-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 9:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 9:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <8d60baf4-45e8-296a-279e-dc105966361c-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 22:50 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_relocation) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 22:50 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <eb3cac23-cd8c-732b-684c-c2d531de00a2-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-26 9:01 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-26 9:01 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 23:11 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 23:11 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <c6642ebd-c9f1-eab0-ff6d-109698af73e0-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 9:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 9:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <5c0aa939-d722-5034-6328-4df5be8ee3c6-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 23:24 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 23:24 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <c96af3cb-a15c-dd3f-ac5b-b0a56d2ed6d9-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-26 9:05 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-26 9:05 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 23:18 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 23:18 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <f85f3fa0-ba18-ddd5-2bac-158dfed9b792-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 0:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 0:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 23:23 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 23:23 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <3703cf87-457a-0e71-7693-5644735e438a-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 9:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 9:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 0:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 0:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <10f9a8e5-9972-76bc-f60a-1bf1211e55e1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-25 9:23 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 9:23 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 22:47 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_channel_map) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 22:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <4f9ddf30-ad8d-3750-20d7-867be17a1006-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-26 7:34 ` Thierry Reding
2020-06-26 7:34 ` Thierry Reding
2020-06-26 16:35 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 16:35 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <4c243f7a-4c53-d995-88a1-0fe03d41fc3a-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-28 11:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-28 11:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <f622c8ed-efe4-0889-bd26-dc22e96b8e4d-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-28 22:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 22:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <b8a8b05e-de1c-400f-3f35-bb1ea49789e9-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-30 10:55 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-30 10:55 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <76e46256-58d3-fdbe-41d6-8ac910fc7fd0-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-30 19:48 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 19:48 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 11:06 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Karol Herbst
2020-06-26 11:06 ` Karol Herbst
[not found] ` <CACO55ttfwQDwnO8ep=YKBgo+HYBg=zLDLfBKtH67MrqKzMWw_w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-26 11:13 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-26 11:13 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <cb935527-2eb9-23f3-a823-d6b849fc3c94-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-26 11:16 ` Karol Herbst
2020-06-26 11:16 ` Karol Herbst
2020-06-26 11:40 ` Thierry Reding [this message]
2020-06-26 11:40 ` Thierry Reding
2020-06-26 13:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-26 13:38 ` Daniel Vetter
[not found] ` <20200626133837.GE3278063-dv86pmgwkMBes7Z6vYuT8azUEOm+Xw19@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-26 13:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 13:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <b46516eb-4077-c3ac-83d0-d8c57660dc3e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-30 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-30 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-27 21:47 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_syncpt_incr) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-27 21:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <9ddfedff-f465-b22d-5d6f-c7ba01731455-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-28 11:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-28 11:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-27 22:32 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_command) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-27 22:32 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <f31fbe3b-3fc5-2ece-4c2c-9ff4e99995d6-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-28 10:28 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-28 10:28 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <19b7b295-30fa-8897-02f3-3c3b8f2a0e53-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-29 0:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 0:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <3f0d2e08-aa0b-9048-c22d-8f3d3106cdff-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-30 10:40 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-30 10:40 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-27 23:27 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (sync points) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-27 23:27 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <5b1edaad-ba36-7b0f-5b02-457ae5b6d91e-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-28 9:44 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-28 9:44 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <62859775-514c-2941-75ed-6905e9282a6f-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-29 2:36 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 2:36 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <623c1eaa-31fb-8dff-f6c0-d8cd0be60070-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-29 10:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-29 10:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <827c92a6-7fed-a81c-ba8e-6c69416c4ab9-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-29 19:28 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:28 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:42 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:42 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <f1a88006-ab3e-9068-e220-15eee17aeba0-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-06-30 10:26 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-30 10:26 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <3b058989-a93a-6796-8d94-f60ce39e3fba-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-01 0:22 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-07-01 0:22 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <2190fe9d-6381-0b5e-39d8-a04daca9a1bf-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-02 12:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-02 12:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <a1d6c789-4935-110f-f4fd-db86ae0e4fef-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-07 11:06 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-07-07 11:06 ` Dmitry Osipenko
[not found] ` <a2b1f9cf-cc0b-1a0f-d0ac-addcb1f28502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-08 10:06 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-08 10:06 ` Mikko Perttunen
[not found] ` <d3a6c005-0d85-e7b9-41a2-3d86595efbc1-/1wQRMveznE@public.gmane.org>
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