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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] module: Rename module_alloc() to text_alloc() and move to kernel proper
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:56:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200714135651.GA27819@linux-8ccs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200714094625.1443261-2-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>

+++ Jarkko Sakkinen [14/07/20 12:45 +0300]:
>Rename module_alloc() to text_alloc() and module_memfree() to
>text_memfree(), and move them to kernel/text.c, which is unconditionally
>compiled to the kernel proper. This allows kprobes, ftrace and bpf to
>allocate space for executable code without requiring to compile the modules
>support (CONFIG_MODULES=y) in.
>
>Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
>Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>Signed-off-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>

As Ard and Will have already explained, the major issue I'm having
with this is that we're taking module_alloc(), an allocator that was
originally specific to module loading, and turning it into a generic
interface to be used by other subsystems. You're pulling in all the
module loading semantics that vary by architecture and expecting it to
work as a generic text allocator. I'm not against the existence of a
generic text_alloc() but I would very much rather that module_alloc()
be left alone to the module loader and instead work on introducing a
*separate* generic text_alloc() interface that would work for its
intended users (kprobes, bpf, etc) and have existing users of
module_alloc() switch to that instead.

Jessica

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From: Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>
To: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Zong Li <zong.li@sifive.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Paul Burton <paulburton@kernel.org>,
	Vincent Whitchurch <vincent.whitchurch@axis.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>, Anup Patel <anup.patel@wdc.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Philipp Rudo <prudo@linux.ibm.com>,
	Torsten Duwe <duwe@lst.de>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"James E.J. Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	Vincent Chen <deanbo422@gmail.com>,
	Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>,
	"open list:S390" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Anil S Keshavamurthy <anil.s.keshavamurthy@intel.com>,
	Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>, Iurii Zaikin <yzaikin@google.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andriin@fb.com>, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM PORT" <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Daniel Axtens <dja@axtens.net>,
	Damien Le Moal <damien.lemoal@wdc.com>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>, Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Atish Patra <atish.patra@wdc.com>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Nayna Jain <nayna@linux.ibm.com>,
	Ley Foon Tan <ley.foon.tan@intel.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.ibm.com>,
	Mao Han <han_mao@c-sky.com>, Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Babu Moger <Babu.Moger@amd.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Greentime Hu <green.hu@gmail.com>,
	Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>, Guan Xuetao <gxt@pku.edu.cn>,
	Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] module: Rename module_alloc() to text_alloc() and move to kernel proper
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2020 15:56:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200714135651.GA27819@linux-8ccs> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200714094625.1443261-2-jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>

+++ Jarkko Sakkinen [14/07/20 12:45 +0300]:
>Rename module_alloc() to text_alloc() and module_memfree() to
>text_memfree(), and move them to kernel/text.c, which is unconditionally
>compiled to the kernel proper. This allows kprobes, ftrace and bpf to
>allocate space for executable code without requiring to compile the modules
>support (CONFIG_MODULES=y) in.
>
>Cc: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
>Suggested-by: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>Signed-off-by: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>

As Ard and Will have already explained, the major issue I'm having
with this is that we're taking module_alloc(), an allocator that was
originally specific to module loading, and turning it into a generic
interface to be used by other subsystems. You're pulling in all the
module loading semantics that vary by architecture and expecting it to
work as a generic text allocator. I'm not against the existence of a
generic text_alloc() but I would very much rather that module_alloc()
be left alone to the module loader and instead work on introducing a
*separate* generic text_alloc() interface that would work for its
intended users (kprobes, bpf, etc) and have existing users of
module_alloc() switch to that instead.

Jessica

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-07-14 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-14  9:45 [PATCH v2 0/3] kprobes: Remove MODULE dependency Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14  9:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] module: Rename module_alloc() to text_alloc() and move to kernel proper Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14  9:45   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14  9:50   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-14  9:50     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-14 10:28   ` Will Deacon
2020-07-14 10:28     ` Will Deacon
2020-07-14 11:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 11:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 12:19       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-14 12:19         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-14 13:01         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 13:01           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 13:33           ` Mark Rutland
2020-07-14 13:33             ` Mark Rutland
2020-07-14 13:47             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-14 13:47               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-14 14:03             ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-14 14:03               ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-15  5:03               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-07-15  5:03                 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-07-14 16:31           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14 16:31             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14 16:46             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-14 16:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-07-15  8:15             ` David Laight
2020-07-15  8:15               ` David Laight
2020-07-14 16:42           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-14 16:42             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-07-14 12:25       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14 12:25         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14 13:56   ` Jessica Yu [this message]
2020-07-14 13:56     ` Jessica Yu
2020-07-14 15:44     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-14 15:44       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-07-14 16:37     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14 16:37       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14 14:35   ` kernel test robot
2020-07-14 14:35     ` kernel test robot
2020-07-16 16:49   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-16 16:49     ` Christophe Leroy
2020-07-23  1:51     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-23  1:51       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-23 12:42       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-23 12:42         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-24  7:36         ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  7:36           ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24  8:05           ` Jessica Yu
2020-07-24  8:05             ` Jessica Yu
2020-07-24 15:46             ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-24 15:46               ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] module: Add lock_modules() and unlock_modules() Jarkko Sakkinen
2020-07-14  9:45 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] kprobes: Flag out CONFIG_MODULES dependent code Jarkko Sakkinen

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