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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>,
	Yang Shi
	<yang.shi-KPsoFbNs7GizrGE5bRqYAgC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PROPOSAL] memcg: per-memcg user space reclaim interface
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 19:36:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200811173626.GA58879@blackbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod5ty=piw6czyVyMhxQMBWGghC3ujxbrkVPr0fzwqogwrw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

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Hi Shakeel.

On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:02:50AM -0700, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > Well, I was talkingg about memory.low. It is not meant only to protect
> > from the global reclaim. It can be used for balancing memory reclaim
> > from _any_ external memory pressure source. So it is somehow related to
> > the usecase you have mentioned.
> >
> 
> For the uswapd use-case, I am not concerned about the external memory
> pressure source but the application hitting its own memory.high limit
> and getting throttled.
FTR, you can transform own memory.high into "external" pressure with a
hierarchy such as

  limit-group			memory.high=N+margin memory.low=0
  `- latency-sensitive-group	memory.low=N
  `- regular-group		memory.low=0

Would that ensure the latency targets?

Michal

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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Yang Shi <yang.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PROPOSAL] memcg: per-memcg user space reclaim interface
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2020 19:36:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200811173626.GA58879@blackbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALvZod5ty=piw6czyVyMhxQMBWGghC3ujxbrkVPr0fzwqogwrw@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi Shakeel.

On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:02:50AM -0700, Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
> > Well, I was talkingg about memory.low. It is not meant only to protect
> > from the global reclaim. It can be used for balancing memory reclaim
> > from _any_ external memory pressure source. So it is somehow related to
> > the usecase you have mentioned.
> >
> 
> For the uswapd use-case, I am not concerned about the external memory
> pressure source but the application hitting its own memory.high limit
> and getting throttled.
FTR, you can transform own memory.high into "external" pressure with a
hierarchy such as

  limit-group			memory.high=N+margin memory.low=0
  `- latency-sensitive-group	memory.low=N
  `- regular-group		memory.low=0

Would that ensure the latency targets?

Michal

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-11 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-02 15:22 [RFC PROPOSAL] memcg: per-memcg user space reclaim interface Shakeel Butt
2020-07-02 15:22 ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found] ` <20200702152222.2630760-1-shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-03  6:35   ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03  6:35     ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-03 14:23     ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]       ` <CALvZod5gthVX5m6o50OiYsXa=0_NpXK-tVvjTF42Oj4udr4Nuw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-03 15:50         ` Roman Gushchin
2020-07-03 15:50           ` Roman Gushchin
     [not found]           ` <20200703155021.GB114903-cx5fftMpWqeCjSd+JxjunQ2O0Ztt9esIQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-03 16:27             ` Shakeel Butt
2020-07-03 16:27               ` Shakeel Butt
2020-07-06 21:38               ` Roman Gushchin
2020-07-07 15:51                 ` Shakeel Butt
2020-07-07 12:14         ` Michal Hocko
2020-07-07 12:14           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]           ` <20200707121422.GP5913-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2020-07-07 17:02             ` Shakeel Butt
2020-07-07 17:02               ` Shakeel Butt
     [not found]               ` <CALvZod5ty=piw6czyVyMhxQMBWGghC3ujxbrkVPr0fzwqogwrw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2020-08-11 17:36                 ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2020-08-11 17:36                   ` Michal Koutný
2020-08-12 20:47                   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-12 20:47                     ` Shakeel Butt

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