From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:42:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819114244.GT752365@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e82ca20e-a88e-d7ff-e99b-4189aac54f3a@redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:47:54PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.08.20 16:15, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > v4 changes:
> > * rebase on v5.9-rc1
> > * Do not redefine PMD_PAGE_ORDER in fs/dax.c, thanks Kirill
> > * Make secret mappings exclusive by default and only require flags to
> > memfd_secret() system call for uncached mappings, thanks again Kirill :)
> >
> > v3 changes:
> > * Squash kernel-parameters.txt update into the commit that added the
> > command line option.
> > * Make uncached mode explicitly selectable by architectures. For now enable
> > it only on x86.
> >
> > v2 changes:
> > * Follow Michael's suggestion and name the new system call 'memfd_secret'
> > * Add kernel-parameters documentation about the boot option
> > * Fix i386-tinyconfig regression reported by the kbuild bot.
> > CONFIG_SECRETMEM now depends on !EMBEDDED to disable it on small systems
> > from one side and still make it available unconditionally on
> > architectures that support SET_DIRECT_MAP.
> >
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> >
> > Although normally Linux userspace mappings are protected from other users,
> > such secret mappings are useful for environments where a hostile tenant is
> > trying to trick the kernel into giving them access to other tenants
> > mappings.
> >
> > Additionally, the secret mappings may be used as a mean to protect guest
> > memory in a virtual machine host.
> >
>
> Just a general question. I assume such pages (where the direct mapping
> was changed) cannot get migrated - I can spot a simple alloc_page(). So
> essentially a process can just allocate a whole bunch of memory that is
> unmovable, correct? Is there any limit? Is it properly accounted towards
> the process (memctl) ?
The memory as accounted in the same way like with mlock(), so normal
user won't be able to allocate more than RLIMIT_MEMLOCK.
> --
> Thanks,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, Idan Yaniv <idan.yaniv@ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:42:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819114244.GT752365@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e82ca20e-a88e-d7ff-e99b-4189aac54f3a@redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:47:54PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.08.20 16:15, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > v4 changes:
> > * rebase on v5.9-rc1
> > * Do not redefine PMD_PAGE_ORDER in fs/dax.c, thanks Kirill
> > * Make secret mappings exclusive by default and only require flags to
> > memfd_secret() system call for uncached mappings, thanks again Kirill :)
> >
> > v3 changes:
> > * Squash kernel-parameters.txt update into the commit that added the
> > command line option.
> > * Make uncached mode explicitly selectable by architectures. For now enable
> > it only on x86.
> >
> > v2 changes:
> > * Follow Michael's suggestion and name the new system call 'memfd_secret'
> > * Add kernel-parameters documentation about the boot option
> > * Fix i386-tinyconfig regression reported by the kbuild bot.
> > CONFIG_SECRETMEM now depends on !EMBEDDED to disable it on small systems
> > from one side and still make it available unconditionally on
> > architectures that support SET_DIRECT_MAP.
> >
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> >
> > Although normally Linux userspace mappings are protected from other users,
> > such secret mappings are useful for environments where a hostile tenant is
> > trying to trick the kernel into giving them access to other tenants
> > mappings.
> >
> > Additionally, the secret mappings may be used as a mean to protect guest
> > memory in a virtual machine host.
> >
>
> Just a general question. I assume such pages (where the direct mapping
> was changed) cannot get migrated - I can spot a simple alloc_page(). So
> essentially a process can just allocate a whole bunch of memory that is
> unmovable, correct? Is there any limit? Is it properly accounted towards
> the process (memctl) ?
The memory as accounted in the same way like with mlock(), so normal
user won't be able to allocate more than RLIMIT_MEMLOCK.
> --
> Thanks,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Idan Yaniv <idan.yaniv@ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
x86@kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:42:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819114244.GT752365@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e82ca20e-a88e-d7ff-e99b-4189aac54f3a@redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:47:54PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.08.20 16:15, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > v4 changes:
> > * rebase on v5.9-rc1
> > * Do not redefine PMD_PAGE_ORDER in fs/dax.c, thanks Kirill
> > * Make secret mappings exclusive by default and only require flags to
> > memfd_secret() system call for uncached mappings, thanks again Kirill :)
> >
> > v3 changes:
> > * Squash kernel-parameters.txt update into the commit that added the
> > command line option.
> > * Make uncached mode explicitly selectable by architectures. For now enable
> > it only on x86.
> >
> > v2 changes:
> > * Follow Michael's suggestion and name the new system call 'memfd_secret'
> > * Add kernel-parameters documentation about the boot option
> > * Fix i386-tinyconfig regression reported by the kbuild bot.
> > CONFIG_SECRETMEM now depends on !EMBEDDED to disable it on small systems
> > from one side and still make it available unconditionally on
> > architectures that support SET_DIRECT_MAP.
> >
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> >
> > Although normally Linux userspace mappings are protected from other users,
> > such secret mappings are useful for environments where a hostile tenant is
> > trying to trick the kernel into giving them access to other tenants
> > mappings.
> >
> > Additionally, the secret mappings may be used as a mean to protect guest
> > memory in a virtual machine host.
> >
>
> Just a general question. I assume such pages (where the direct mapping
> was changed) cannot get migrated - I can spot a simple alloc_page(). So
> essentially a process can just allocate a whole bunch of memory that is
> unmovable, correct? Is there any limit? Is it properly accounted towards
> the process (memctl) ?
The memory as accounted in the same way like with mlock(), so normal
user won't be able to allocate more than RLIMIT_MEMLOCK.
> --
> Thanks,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
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From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Christopher Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Idan Yaniv <idan.yaniv@ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Elena Reshetova <elena.reshetova@intel.com>,
linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Tycho Andersen <tycho@tycho.ws>,
linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
x86@kernel.org, Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
James Bottomley <jejb@linux.ibm.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 14:42:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819114244.GT752365@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e82ca20e-a88e-d7ff-e99b-4189aac54f3a@redhat.com>
On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 12:47:54PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 18.08.20 16:15, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@linux.ibm.com>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > This is an implementation of "secret" mappings backed by a file descriptor.
> >
> > v4 changes:
> > * rebase on v5.9-rc1
> > * Do not redefine PMD_PAGE_ORDER in fs/dax.c, thanks Kirill
> > * Make secret mappings exclusive by default and only require flags to
> > memfd_secret() system call for uncached mappings, thanks again Kirill :)
> >
> > v3 changes:
> > * Squash kernel-parameters.txt update into the commit that added the
> > command line option.
> > * Make uncached mode explicitly selectable by architectures. For now enable
> > it only on x86.
> >
> > v2 changes:
> > * Follow Michael's suggestion and name the new system call 'memfd_secret'
> > * Add kernel-parameters documentation about the boot option
> > * Fix i386-tinyconfig regression reported by the kbuild bot.
> > CONFIG_SECRETMEM now depends on !EMBEDDED to disable it on small systems
> > from one side and still make it available unconditionally on
> > architectures that support SET_DIRECT_MAP.
> >
> >
> > The file descriptor backing secret memory mappings is created using a
> > dedicated memfd_secret system call The desired protection mode for the
> > memory is configured using flags parameter of the system call. The mmap()
> > of the file descriptor created with memfd_secret() will create a "secret"
> > memory mapping. The pages in that mapping will be marked as not present in
> > the direct map and will have desired protection bits set in the user page
> > table. For instance, current implementation allows uncached mappings.
> >
> > Although normally Linux userspace mappings are protected from other users,
> > such secret mappings are useful for environments where a hostile tenant is
> > trying to trick the kernel into giving them access to other tenants
> > mappings.
> >
> > Additionally, the secret mappings may be used as a mean to protect guest
> > memory in a virtual machine host.
> >
>
> Just a general question. I assume such pages (where the direct mapping
> was changed) cannot get migrated - I can spot a simple alloc_page(). So
> essentially a process can just allocate a whole bunch of memory that is
> unmovable, correct? Is there any limit? Is it properly accounted towards
> the process (memctl) ?
The memory as accounted in the same way like with mlock(), so normal
user won't be able to allocate more than RLIMIT_MEMLOCK.
> --
> Thanks,
>
> David / dhildenb
>
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
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Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-18 14:15 [PATCH v4 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] mm: add definition of PMD_PAGE_ORDER Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] mmap: make mlock_future_check() global Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] arch, mm: wire up memfd_secret system call were relevant Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] mm: secretmem: use PMD-size pages to amortize direct map fragmentation Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] mm: secretmem: add ability to reserve memory at boot Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-18 14:15 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 10:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 10:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 10:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 10:49 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 11:53 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 11:53 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 11:53 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 11:53 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 12:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 12:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 12:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 12:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 17:33 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 17:33 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 17:33 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 17:33 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 17:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 17:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 17:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 17:45 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-20 15:52 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-20 15:52 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-20 15:52 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-20 15:52 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-08 9:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-08 9:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-08 9:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-08 9:09 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-09-08 12:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-08 12:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-08 12:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-08 12:31 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 10:47 ` [PATCH v4 0/6] mm: introduce memfd_secret system call to create "secret" memory areas David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 10:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 10:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 10:47 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 11:42 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2020-08-19 11:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 11:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 11:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-19 12:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 12:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 12:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-19 12:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2020-08-26 11:01 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-26 11:01 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-26 11:01 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-08-26 11:01 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-03 7:46 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-03 7:46 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-03 7:46 ` Mike Rapoport
2020-09-03 7:46 ` Mike Rapoport
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