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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Clint Sbisa <csbisa@amazon.com>, <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <will@kernel.org>,
	<catalin.marinas@arm.com>, Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: Enable PCI write-combine resources under sysfs
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:21:33 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200911142133.GL904879@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3110e00a1f4df7b7359ba4f2b7f86a35aa47405e.camel@kernel.crashing.org>

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:39:16AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

> Yes, "write combine" isn't a good name.... The goal is to get WC but it
> comes with the whole package on several archs. We don't even have a
> reasonnable definition of the semantics of readl/writel on a WC mapping
> (hint: on powerpc the barriers in them will prevent WC even on a WC
> mapping) nor of what barriers might work  and how on such a mapping.

Yes, you can't really use WC properly in the kernel, we don't have the
infrastructure for it. mlx5 is using __raw_writeq() and wmb() to hack
something ugly together in the kernel.

A useful API for the message method, similar to what we use in
userspace, is something like:

  /*
   * Almost always need a spinlock as multiple CPUs cannot write
   * concurrently.
   */
  spin_lock();

  /*
   * Ensure that all DMA visiable writes in program order are visible
   * to DMA before the WC TLP is sent.
   */
  barrier_wc_after_lock();

  /* Generate the TLP */
  write_wc_message(wc_iomem, message, len);

  /*
   * Writes to wc_iomem past this, by any CPU, cannot replace writes
   * already done in wc_message.
   */
  barrier_wc_before_unlock();

  spin_unlock();

And another varient without the spinlock for stuff that can be per-CPU
for a range of WC memory.

(oh actually I see most drivers are using ioremap_wc(), and there is a
bunch of them including an Amazon ethernet device...)

Jason

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com>,
	Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, will@kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Clint Sbisa <csbisa@amazon.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: Enable PCI write-combine resources under sysfs
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2020 11:21:33 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200911142133.GL904879@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3110e00a1f4df7b7359ba4f2b7f86a35aa47405e.camel@kernel.crashing.org>

On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 10:39:16AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:

> Yes, "write combine" isn't a good name.... The goal is to get WC but it
> comes with the whole package on several archs. We don't even have a
> reasonnable definition of the semantics of readl/writel on a WC mapping
> (hint: on powerpc the barriers in them will prevent WC even on a WC
> mapping) nor of what barriers might work  and how on such a mapping.

Yes, you can't really use WC properly in the kernel, we don't have the
infrastructure for it. mlx5 is using __raw_writeq() and wmb() to hack
something ugly together in the kernel.

A useful API for the message method, similar to what we use in
userspace, is something like:

  /*
   * Almost always need a spinlock as multiple CPUs cannot write
   * concurrently.
   */
  spin_lock();

  /*
   * Ensure that all DMA visiable writes in program order are visible
   * to DMA before the WC TLP is sent.
   */
  barrier_wc_after_lock();

  /* Generate the TLP */
  write_wc_message(wc_iomem, message, len);

  /*
   * Writes to wc_iomem past this, by any CPU, cannot replace writes
   * already done in wc_message.
   */
  barrier_wc_before_unlock();

  spin_unlock();

And another varient without the spinlock for stuff that can be per-CPU
for a range of WC memory.

(oh actually I see most drivers are using ioremap_wc(), and there is a
bunch of them including an Amazon ethernet device...)

Jason

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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-31 15:18 [PATCH] arm64: Enable PCI write-combine resources under sysfs Clint Sbisa
2020-08-31 23:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-01 18:37 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-09-01 23:22   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02  8:57     ` Will Deacon
2020-09-02 11:32 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-02 14:29   ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-02 16:47     ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-02 16:47       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-02 17:21       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-02 17:21         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-02 17:54         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-02 17:54           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-02 23:03           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:03             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:08         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:08           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:08           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:08             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:07       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-02 23:07         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-03 11:08         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-03 11:08           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-03 14:36           ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-03 14:36             ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-03 22:26           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-03 22:26             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-07 23:33           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-07 23:33             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-10  9:46             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-10  9:46               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-10 10:54               ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-10 10:54                 ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-10 12:37               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-10 12:37                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-10 15:17                 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-10 15:17                   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-10 17:10                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-10 17:10                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-10 21:46                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-10 21:46                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-10 23:29                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-10 23:29                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-11  0:39                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-11  0:39                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-11 14:21                           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-09-11 14:21                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-11 21:42                           ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-11 21:42                             ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 14:17                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 14:17                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 14:24                               ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 14:24                                 ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 14:38                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 14:38                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 21:42                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 21:42                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 22:00                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 22:00                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 22:32                                       ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 22:32                                         ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 22:57                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 22:57                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-14 23:25                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 23:25                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 10:18                                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-15 10:18                                             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-15 11:05                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 11:05                                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 23:17                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 23:17                                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 23:40                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 23:40                                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16  7:59                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-16  7:59                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-16 12:12                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 12:12                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:09                                                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-16 14:09                                                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-16 14:14                                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 14:14                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 23:59                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-16 23:59                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-17 10:28                                                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-17 10:28                                                           ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-17 11:32                                                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 11:32                                                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-17 14:01                                                             ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-17 14:01                                                               ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-17 16:08                                                               ` Will Deacon
2020-09-17 16:08                                                                 ` Will Deacon
2020-09-16 12:48                                                     ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-16 12:48                                                       ` Leon Romanovsky
2020-09-16  8:33                                                   ` Will Deacon
2020-09-16  8:33                                                     ` Will Deacon
2020-09-16  8:48                                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-16  8:48                                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-16 14:15                                                       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-16 14:15                                                         ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2020-09-16 17:00                                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-16 17:00                                                           ` Catalin Marinas
2020-09-16 21:29                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-16 21:29                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-16 12:08                                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-16 12:08                                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-09-15 23:00                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 23:00                                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-15 23:12                                               ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-15 23:12                                                 ` Clint Sbisa
2020-09-14 21:41                               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2020-09-14 21:41                                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-08-21 15:51 Clint Sbisa
2020-08-21 15:51 ` Clint Sbisa
2020-08-27 14:41 ` Clint Sbisa
2020-08-27 14:41   ` Clint Sbisa
2020-08-31 15:22 ` Clint Sbisa
2020-08-31 15:22   ` Clint Sbisa

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