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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] ARM: syscall: always store thread_info->syscall
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:08:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200928150843.GB1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0BZ-zdk+RB5ODcVs2z-Y6xmLCp57uzivUGWRcoeH2fQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 02:42:43PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > I need some idea how this numberspace is managed in order to
> > understand the code so I can review it, I guess it all makes perfect
> > sense but I need some background here.
> 
> I also had never understood this part before, and I'm still not
> sure where the 0x900000 actually comes from, though my best
> guess is that this was intended as a an OS specific number space,
> with '9' being assigned to Linux (similar to the way Itanium and
> MIPS do with their respective offsets). By the time EABI got added,
> this was apparently no longer considered helpful.

It is an OS specific number space, originally designed to allow
RISC OS programs to be run under Linux.  There was indeed such a
project, but that died and the code ripped out. EABI, by using
SWI 0 - or more accurately, not reading the SWI opcode, trampled
over the ability for RISC OS programs to be run under Linux.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/9] ARM: syscall: always store thread_info->syscall
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:08:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200928150843.GB1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a0BZ-zdk+RB5ODcVs2z-Y6xmLCp57uzivUGWRcoeH2fQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 02:42:43PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > I need some idea how this numberspace is managed in order to
> > understand the code so I can review it, I guess it all makes perfect
> > sense but I need some background here.
> 
> I also had never understood this part before, and I'm still not
> sure where the 0x900000 actually comes from, though my best
> guess is that this was intended as a an OS specific number space,
> with '9' being assigned to Linux (similar to the way Itanium and
> MIPS do with their respective offsets). By the time EABI got added,
> this was apparently no longer considered helpful.

It is an OS specific number space, originally designed to allow
RISC OS programs to be run under Linux.  There was indeed such a
project, but that died and the code ripped out. EABI, by using
SWI 0 - or more accurately, not reading the SWI opcode, trampled
over the ability for RISC OS programs to be run under Linux.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTP is here! 40Mbps down 10Mbps up. Decent connectivity at last!

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-09-28 15:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-09-07 15:36 [PATCH 0/9] ARM: remove set_fs callers and implementation Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm/maccess: fix unaligned copy_{from,to}_kernel_nofault Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-08  6:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-08  6:11     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-27  9:25   ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-27  9:25     ` [PATCH 1/9] mm/maccess: fix unaligned copy_{from, to}_kernel_nofault Linus Walleij
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 2/9] ARM: traps: use get_kernel_nofault instead of set_fs() Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-08  6:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-08  6:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-17 17:29     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-17 17:29       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-18  7:42       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-09-18  7:42         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-09-18 12:36         ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-18 12:36           ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 3/9] ARM: oabi-compat: add epoll_pwait handler Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-08  6:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-08  6:16     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 4/9] ARM: syscall: always store thread_info->syscall Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-28  9:41   ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-28  9:41     ` Linus Walleij
2020-09-28 12:42     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-28 12:42       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-28 15:08       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2020-09-28 15:08         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 5/9] ARM: oabi-compat: rework epoll_wait/epoll_pwait emulation Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-08  6:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-08  6:20     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-09-08 20:56     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-08 20:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 6/9] ARM: oabi-compat: rework sys_semtimedop emulation Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 7/9] ARM: oabi-compat: rework fcntl64() emulation Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 8/9] ARM: uaccess: add __{get,put}_kernel_nofault Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36 ` [PATCH 9/9] ARM: uaccess: remove set_fs() implementation Arnd Bergmann
2020-09-07 15:36   ` Arnd Bergmann
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-10-30 15:45 [PATCH v4 0/9] ARM: remove set_fs callers and implementation Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-30 15:49 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm/maccess: fix unaligned copy_{from,to}_kernel_nofault Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-30 15:49   ` [PATCH 4/9] ARM: syscall: always store thread_info->syscall Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-30 15:49     ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-30 16:53     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-10-30 16:53       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-10-30 21:28       ` Arnd Bergmann
2020-10-30 21:28         ` Arnd Bergmann

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