From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Matt Roper <matthew.d.roper@intel.com>
Cc: "Pandey, Hariom" <hariom.pandey@intel.com>,
"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"De Marchi, Lucas" <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2] drm/i915/edp/jsl: Update vswing table for HBR and HBR2
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 00:11:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200929211148.GJ6112@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200929210144.GA2214475@mdroper-desk1.amr.corp.intel.com>
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 02:01:44PM -0700, Matt Roper wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:30:22PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:20:22PM +0000, Souza, Jose wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 23:02 +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 07:33:45PM +0000, Souza, Jose wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 17:41 +0530, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > > > JSL has update in vswing table for eDP
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be nice to mention in the commit description why PCH is being used, that would avoid Ville's question.
> > > >
> > > > If the thing has nothing to do PCH then it should not use the PCH type
> > > > for the the check. Instead we should just do the EHL/JSL split.
> > >
> > > In the first version Matt Roper suggested to use PCH to differentiate between EHL and JSL, Jani also agreed with this solution.This 2 PCHs can only be
> > > associate with EHL and JSL respectively, so no downsides here.
> >
> > The downside is that the code makes no sense on the first glance.
> > It's going to generate a "wtf?" exception in the brain and require
> > me to take a second look to figure what is going on. Exception
> > handling is expensive and shouldn't be needed in cases where it's
> > trivial to make the code 100% obvious.
>
> The bspec documents EHL and JSL as being the same platform and identical
> in all programming since they are literally the same display IP; this
> vswing table is the one and only place where the two are treated in a
> distinct manner for reasons that lie outside the display controller. If
> you had to stop and take a closer look at the code here, that's a
> probably a good thing since in general there should generally never be a
> difference in the behavior between the two. Adding an additional
> clarifying comment is probably in order too since this is a very
> exceptional special case.
>
> If we deviate from the bspec's guidance and try to split IS_ELKHARTLAKE
> and IS_JASPERLAKE across the whole driver, that's going to be a lot more
> pain to maintain down the road since we'll almost certainly have cases
> where someone silently leaves one or the other off a condition and gets
> unexepcted behavior. I could see arguments for using a SUBPLATFORM here
> like we do for TGL_U vs TGL_Y, but even that seems like overkill if we
> already have a clear way to distinguish the two cases (PCH pairing) and
> can just leave a clarifying comment.
That fixed PCH pairing is totally undocumented AFAICS. And vswing has
nothing to do with the south display, so the wtf will still happen.
Comment or no comment.
--
Ville Syrjälä
Intel
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From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Matt Roper <matthew.d.roper@intel.com>
Cc: "Pandey, Hariom" <hariom.pandey@intel.com>,
"Ausmus, James" <james.ausmus@intel.com>,
"intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org"
<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"De Marchi, Lucas" <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
"dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org"
<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
"Souza, Jose" <jose.souza@intel.com>,
"Surendrakumar Upadhyay,
TejaskumarX" <tejaskumarx.surendrakumar.upadhyay@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] drm/i915/edp/jsl: Update vswing table for HBR and HBR2
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 00:11:48 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200929211148.GJ6112@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200929210144.GA2214475@mdroper-desk1.amr.corp.intel.com>
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 02:01:44PM -0700, Matt Roper wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:30:22PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 08:20:22PM +0000, Souza, Jose wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 23:02 +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 07:33:45PM +0000, Souza, Jose wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 2020-09-29 at 17:41 +0530, Tejas Upadhyay wrote:
> > > > > > JSL has update in vswing table for eDP
> > > > >
> > > > > Would be nice to mention in the commit description why PCH is being used, that would avoid Ville's question.
> > > >
> > > > If the thing has nothing to do PCH then it should not use the PCH type
> > > > for the the check. Instead we should just do the EHL/JSL split.
> > >
> > > In the first version Matt Roper suggested to use PCH to differentiate between EHL and JSL, Jani also agreed with this solution.This 2 PCHs can only be
> > > associate with EHL and JSL respectively, so no downsides here.
> >
> > The downside is that the code makes no sense on the first glance.
> > It's going to generate a "wtf?" exception in the brain and require
> > me to take a second look to figure what is going on. Exception
> > handling is expensive and shouldn't be needed in cases where it's
> > trivial to make the code 100% obvious.
>
> The bspec documents EHL and JSL as being the same platform and identical
> in all programming since they are literally the same display IP; this
> vswing table is the one and only place where the two are treated in a
> distinct manner for reasons that lie outside the display controller. If
> you had to stop and take a closer look at the code here, that's a
> probably a good thing since in general there should generally never be a
> difference in the behavior between the two. Adding an additional
> clarifying comment is probably in order too since this is a very
> exceptional special case.
>
> If we deviate from the bspec's guidance and try to split IS_ELKHARTLAKE
> and IS_JASPERLAKE across the whole driver, that's going to be a lot more
> pain to maintain down the road since we'll almost certainly have cases
> where someone silently leaves one or the other off a condition and gets
> unexepcted behavior. I could see arguments for using a SUBPLATFORM here
> like we do for TGL_U vs TGL_Y, but even that seems like overkill if we
> already have a clear way to distinguish the two cases (PCH pairing) and
> can just leave a clarifying comment.
That fixed PCH pairing is totally undocumented AFAICS. And vswing has
nothing to do with the south display, so the wtf will still happen.
Comment or no comment.
--
Ville Syrjälä
Intel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-09-29 21:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-09-29 12:11 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2] drm/i915/edp/jsl: Update vswing table for HBR and HBR2 Tejas Upadhyay
2020-09-29 12:11 ` Tejas Upadhyay
2020-09-29 12:52 ` [Intel-gfx] " Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 12:52 ` Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 13:17 ` [Intel-gfx] " Surendrakumar Upadhyay, TejaskumarX
2020-09-29 13:17 ` Surendrakumar Upadhyay, TejaskumarX
2020-09-29 17:51 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for " Patchwork
2020-09-29 18:13 ` [Intel-gfx] ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2020-09-29 19:33 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2] " Souza, Jose
2020-09-29 19:33 ` Souza, Jose
2020-09-29 20:02 ` [Intel-gfx] " Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 20:02 ` Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 20:20 ` [Intel-gfx] " Souza, Jose
2020-09-29 20:20 ` Souza, Jose
2020-09-29 20:30 ` [Intel-gfx] " Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 20:30 ` Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 20:34 ` [Intel-gfx] " Souza, Jose
2020-09-29 20:34 ` Souza, Jose
2020-09-29 21:01 ` [Intel-gfx] " Matt Roper
2020-09-29 21:01 ` Matt Roper
2020-09-29 21:11 ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2020-09-29 21:11 ` Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 21:59 ` [Intel-gfx] " Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 21:59 ` Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-29 23:38 ` [Intel-gfx] " Matt Roper
2020-09-29 23:38 ` Matt Roper
2020-09-30 10:38 ` [Intel-gfx] " Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-30 10:38 ` Ville Syrjälä
2020-09-30 12:57 ` [Intel-gfx] " Jani Nikula
2020-09-30 12:57 ` Jani Nikula
2020-09-30 18:20 ` [Intel-gfx] " Matt Roper
2020-09-30 18:20 ` Matt Roper
2020-09-30 12:31 ` [Intel-gfx] " Jani Nikula
2020-09-30 12:31 ` Jani Nikula
2020-09-30 10:49 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure for " Patchwork
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-10-20 5:36 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH V2] " Tejas Upadhyay
2020-11-09 20:54 ` Souza, Jose
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