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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: Loadavg accounting error on arm64
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 15:29:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201116152946.GR3371@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201116125803.GB3121429@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 01:58:03PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 01:53:55PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:49:38AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 09:10:54AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > > I'll be looking again today to see can I find a mistake in the ordering for
> > > > how sched_contributes_to_load is handled but again, the lack of knowledge
> > > > on the arm64 memory model means I'm a bit stuck and a second set of eyes
> > > > would be nice :(
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > This morning, it's not particularly clear what orders the visibility of
> > > sched_contributes_to_load exactly like other task fields in the schedule
> > > vs try_to_wake_up paths. I thought the rq lock would have ordered them but
> > > something is clearly off or loadavg would not be getting screwed. It could
> > > be done with an rmb and wmb (testing and hasn't blown up so far) but that's
> > > far too heavy.  smp_load_acquire/smp_store_release might be sufficient
> > > on it although less clear if the arm64 gives the necessary guarantees.
> > > 
> > > (This is still at the chucking out ideas as I haven't context switched
> > > back in all the memory barrier rules).
> > 
> > IIRC it should be so ordered by ->on_cpu.
> > 
> > We have:
> > 
> > 	schedule()
> > 		prev->sched_contributes_to_load = X;
> > 		smp_store_release(prev->on_cpu, 0);
> > 
> > 
> > on the one hand, and:
> 
> Ah, my bad, ttwu() itself will of course wait for !p->on_cpu before we
> even get here.
> 

Sortof, it will either have called smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) or
smp_cond_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu, !VAL) before hitting one of the paths
leading to ttwu_do_activate. Either way, it's covered.

> > 	sched_ttwu_pending()
> > 		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(p->on_cpu))
> > 			smp_cond_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu)
> > 
> > 		ttwu_do_activate()
> > 			if (p->sched_contributes_to_load)
> > 				...
> > 
> > on the other (for the remote case, which is the only 'interesting' one).
> 

But this side is interesting because I'm having trouble convincing
myself it's 100% correct for sched_contributes_to_load. The write of
prev->sched_contributes_to_load in the schedule() path has a big gap
before it hits the smp_store_release(prev->on_cpu).

On the ttwu path, we have

        if (smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) &&
            ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, task_cpu(p), wake_flags | WF_ON_CPU))
                goto unlock;

	ttwu_queue_wakelist queues task on the wakelist, sends IPI
	and on the receiver side it calls ttwu_do_activate and reads
	sched_contributes_to_load

sched_ttwu_pending() is not necessarily using the same rq lock so no
protection there. The smp_load_acquire() has just been hit but it still
leaves a gap between when sched_contributes_to_load is written and a
parallel read of sched_contributes_to_load.

So while we might be able to avoid a smp_rmb() before the read of
sched_contributes_to_load and rely on p->on_cpu ordering there,
we may still need a smp_wmb() after nr_interruptible() increments
instead of waiting until the smp_store_release() is hit while a task
is scheduling. That would be a real memory barrier on arm64 and a plain
compiler barrier on x86-64.

> Also see the "Notes on Program-Order guarantees on SMP systems."
> comment.

I did, it was the on_cpu ordering for the blocking case that had me
looking at the smp_store_release and smp_cond_load_acquire in arm64 in
the first place thinking that something in there must be breaking the
on_cpu ordering. I'm re-reading it every so often while trying to figure
out where the gap is or whether I'm imagining things.

Not fully tested but did not instantly break either

diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
index d2003a7d5ab5..877eaeba45ac 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
@@ -4459,14 +4459,26 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(bool preempt)
 		if (signal_pending_state(prev_state, prev)) {
 			prev->state = TASK_RUNNING;
 		} else {
-			prev->sched_contributes_to_load =
+			int acct_load =
 				(prev_state & TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE) &&
 				!(prev_state & TASK_NOLOAD) &&
 				!(prev->flags & PF_FROZEN);
 
-			if (prev->sched_contributes_to_load)
+			prev->sched_contributes_to_load = acct_load;
+			if (acct_load) {
 				rq->nr_uninterruptible++;
 
+				/*
+				 * Pairs with p->on_cpu ordering, either a
+				 * smp_load_acquire or smp_cond_load_acquire
+				 * in the ttwu path before ttwu_do_activate
+				 * p->sched_contributes_to_load. It's only
+				 * after the nr_interruptible update happens
+				 * that the ordering is critical.
+				 */
+				smp_wmb();
+			}
+
 			/*
 			 * __schedule()			ttwu()
 			 *   prev_state = prev->state;    if (p->on_rq && ...)

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Loadavg accounting error on arm64
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2020 15:29:46 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201116152946.GR3371@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201116125803.GB3121429@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 01:58:03PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 01:53:55PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 11:49:38AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 09:10:54AM +0000, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > > I'll be looking again today to see can I find a mistake in the ordering for
> > > > how sched_contributes_to_load is handled but again, the lack of knowledge
> > > > on the arm64 memory model means I'm a bit stuck and a second set of eyes
> > > > would be nice :(
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > This morning, it's not particularly clear what orders the visibility of
> > > sched_contributes_to_load exactly like other task fields in the schedule
> > > vs try_to_wake_up paths. I thought the rq lock would have ordered them but
> > > something is clearly off or loadavg would not be getting screwed. It could
> > > be done with an rmb and wmb (testing and hasn't blown up so far) but that's
> > > far too heavy.  smp_load_acquire/smp_store_release might be sufficient
> > > on it although less clear if the arm64 gives the necessary guarantees.
> > > 
> > > (This is still at the chucking out ideas as I haven't context switched
> > > back in all the memory barrier rules).
> > 
> > IIRC it should be so ordered by ->on_cpu.
> > 
> > We have:
> > 
> > 	schedule()
> > 		prev->sched_contributes_to_load = X;
> > 		smp_store_release(prev->on_cpu, 0);
> > 
> > 
> > on the one hand, and:
> 
> Ah, my bad, ttwu() itself will of course wait for !p->on_cpu before we
> even get here.
> 

Sortof, it will either have called smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) or
smp_cond_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu, !VAL) before hitting one of the paths
leading to ttwu_do_activate. Either way, it's covered.

> > 	sched_ttwu_pending()
> > 		if (WARN_ON_ONCE(p->on_cpu))
> > 			smp_cond_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu)
> > 
> > 		ttwu_do_activate()
> > 			if (p->sched_contributes_to_load)
> > 				...
> > 
> > on the other (for the remote case, which is the only 'interesting' one).
> 

But this side is interesting because I'm having trouble convincing
myself it's 100% correct for sched_contributes_to_load. The write of
prev->sched_contributes_to_load in the schedule() path has a big gap
before it hits the smp_store_release(prev->on_cpu).

On the ttwu path, we have

        if (smp_load_acquire(&p->on_cpu) &&
            ttwu_queue_wakelist(p, task_cpu(p), wake_flags | WF_ON_CPU))
                goto unlock;

	ttwu_queue_wakelist queues task on the wakelist, sends IPI
	and on the receiver side it calls ttwu_do_activate and reads
	sched_contributes_to_load

sched_ttwu_pending() is not necessarily using the same rq lock so no
protection there. The smp_load_acquire() has just been hit but it still
leaves a gap between when sched_contributes_to_load is written and a
parallel read of sched_contributes_to_load.

So while we might be able to avoid a smp_rmb() before the read of
sched_contributes_to_load and rely on p->on_cpu ordering there,
we may still need a smp_wmb() after nr_interruptible() increments
instead of waiting until the smp_store_release() is hit while a task
is scheduling. That would be a real memory barrier on arm64 and a plain
compiler barrier on x86-64.

> Also see the "Notes on Program-Order guarantees on SMP systems."
> comment.

I did, it was the on_cpu ordering for the blocking case that had me
looking at the smp_store_release and smp_cond_load_acquire in arm64 in
the first place thinking that something in there must be breaking the
on_cpu ordering. I'm re-reading it every so often while trying to figure
out where the gap is or whether I'm imagining things.

Not fully tested but did not instantly break either

diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
index d2003a7d5ab5..877eaeba45ac 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/core.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
@@ -4459,14 +4459,26 @@ static void __sched notrace __schedule(bool preempt)
 		if (signal_pending_state(prev_state, prev)) {
 			prev->state = TASK_RUNNING;
 		} else {
-			prev->sched_contributes_to_load =
+			int acct_load =
 				(prev_state & TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE) &&
 				!(prev_state & TASK_NOLOAD) &&
 				!(prev->flags & PF_FROZEN);
 
-			if (prev->sched_contributes_to_load)
+			prev->sched_contributes_to_load = acct_load;
+			if (acct_load) {
 				rq->nr_uninterruptible++;
 
+				/*
+				 * Pairs with p->on_cpu ordering, either a
+				 * smp_load_acquire or smp_cond_load_acquire
+				 * in the ttwu path before ttwu_do_activate
+				 * p->sched_contributes_to_load. It's only
+				 * after the nr_interruptible update happens
+				 * that the ordering is critical.
+				 */
+				smp_wmb();
+			}
+
 			/*
 			 * __schedule()			ttwu()
 			 *   prev_state = prev->state;    if (p->on_rq && ...)

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-16 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-16  9:10 Loadavg accounting error on arm64 Mel Gorman
2020-11-16  9:10 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 11:49 ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 11:49   ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 12:00   ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 12:00     ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 12:53   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 12:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 12:58     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 12:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 15:29       ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2020-11-16 15:29         ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 16:42         ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 16:42           ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 16:49         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 16:49           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 17:24           ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 17:24             ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 17:41             ` Will Deacon
2020-11-16 17:41               ` Will Deacon
2020-11-16 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 12:58   ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 12:58     ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 13:11 ` Will Deacon
2020-11-16 13:11   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-16 13:37   ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 13:37     ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 14:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 14:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 15:52       ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 15:52         ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 16:54         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 16:54           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-16 17:16           ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 17:16             ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 19:31       ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-16 19:31         ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-17  8:30         ` [PATCH] sched: Fix data-race in wakeup Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17  8:30           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17  9:15           ` Will Deacon
2020-11-17  9:15             ` Will Deacon
2020-11-17  9:29             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17  9:29               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17  9:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17  9:46                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 10:36                 ` Will Deacon
2020-11-17 10:36                   ` Will Deacon
2020-11-17 12:52                 ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-17 12:52                   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-17 15:37                   ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-17 15:37                     ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-17 16:13                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 16:13                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 19:32                       ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-17 19:32                         ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-18  8:05                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-18  8:05                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-18  9:51                           ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-18  9:51                             ` Valentin Schneider
2020-11-18 13:33               ` Marco Elver
2020-11-18 13:33                 ` Marco Elver
2020-11-17  9:38           ` [PATCH] sched: Fix rq->nr_iowait ordering Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17  9:38             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 11:43             ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-17 11:43               ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-19  9:55             ` [tip: sched/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-11-17 12:40           ` [PATCH] sched: Fix data-race in wakeup Mel Gorman
2020-11-17 12:40             ` Mel Gorman
2020-11-19  9:55           ` [tip: sched/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra

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