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From: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, libc-alpha@sourceware.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arm64: Introduce prctl(PR_PAC_{SET,GET}_ENABLED_KEYS)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:14:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201117181431.GH15033@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X7QIeRIKwd3ShByU@trantor>

The 11/17/2020 17:29, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> Adding Szabolcs and libc-alpha. The original patch below and also here:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20201014055106.25164-1-pcc@google.com
> 
> The patch looks fine to me but I'd like the glibc community to confirm
> that they are happy with this ABI addition. I'd also like Dave Martin to
> ack the patch since he was involved in the discussion for v1.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Catalin
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:51:06PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> > This prctl allows the user program to control which PAC keys are enabled
> > in a particular task. The main reason why this is useful is to enable a
> > userspace ABI that uses PAC to sign and authenticate function pointers
> > and other pointers exposed outside of the function, while still allowing
> > binaries conforming to the ABI to interoperate with legacy binaries that
> > do not sign or authenticate pointers.
> > 
> > The idea is that a dynamic loader or early startup code would issue
> > this prctl very early after establishing that a process may load legacy
> > binaries, but before executing any PAC instructions.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>
> > Link: https://linux-review.googlesource.com/id/Ibc41a5e6a76b275efbaa126b31119dc197b927a5
> > ---
> > This patch must be applied on top of Catalin's MTE series:
> > 
> >   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux for-next/mte
> > 
> > Alternatively the series with this patch on top may be
> > downloaded from Gerrit by following the link above.
...
> > +Enabling and disabling keys
> > +---------------------------
> > +
> > +The prctl PR_PAC_SET_ENABLED_KEYS allows the user program to control which
> > +PAC keys are enabled in a particular task. It takes two arguments, the
> > +first being a bitmask of PR_PAC_APIAKEY, PR_PAC_APIBKEY, PR_PAC_APDAKEY
> > +and PR_PAC_APDBKEY specifying which keys shall be affected by this prctl,
> > +and the second being a bitmask of the same bits specifying whether the key
> > +should be enabled or disabled. For example::
> > +
> > +  prctl(PR_PAC_SET_ENABLED_KEYS,
> > +        PR_PAC_APIAKEY | PR_PAC_APIBKEY | PR_PAC_APDAKEY | PR_PAC_APDBKEY,
> > +        PR_PAC_APIBKEY, 0, 0);
> > +
> > +disables all keys except the IB key.
> > +
> > +The main reason why this is useful is to enable a userspace ABI that uses PAC
> > +instructions to sign and authenticate function pointers and other pointers
> > +exposed outside of the function, while still allowing binaries conforming to
> > +the ABI to interoperate with legacy binaries that do not sign or authenticate
> > +pointers.
> > +
> > +The idea is that a dynamic loader or early startup code would issue this
> > +prctl very early after establishing that a process may load legacy binaries,
> > +but before executing any PAC instructions.

which keys are enabled by default when HWCAP_PACA is
set in AT_HWCAPS ? i think that would be useful to
point out here.

per process enable/disable was deemed costly to do when
pac support was added, did this change? (i'm happy if it
did, because even without a new PAC specific pointer ABI,
plain PAC-RET can cause problems if a process tries to do
its own DWARF unwinding but does not understand the new
opcode that toggles PAC status of the return address,
possibly in a third party library, so a way to opt-out of
PAC is useful. currently it's a kernel config option and
system wide on or off.)


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From: Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: libc-alpha@sourceware.org, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@google.com>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] arm64: Introduce prctl(PR_PAC_{SET,GET}_ENABLED_KEYS)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:14:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201117181431.GH15033@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X7QIeRIKwd3ShByU@trantor>

The 11/17/2020 17:29, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> Adding Szabolcs and libc-alpha. The original patch below and also here:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/r/20201014055106.25164-1-pcc@google.com
> 
> The patch looks fine to me but I'd like the glibc community to confirm
> that they are happy with this ABI addition. I'd also like Dave Martin to
> ack the patch since he was involved in the discussion for v1.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Catalin
> 
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 10:51:06PM -0700, Peter Collingbourne wrote:
> > This prctl allows the user program to control which PAC keys are enabled
> > in a particular task. The main reason why this is useful is to enable a
> > userspace ABI that uses PAC to sign and authenticate function pointers
> > and other pointers exposed outside of the function, while still allowing
> > binaries conforming to the ABI to interoperate with legacy binaries that
> > do not sign or authenticate pointers.
> > 
> > The idea is that a dynamic loader or early startup code would issue
> > this prctl very early after establishing that a process may load legacy
> > binaries, but before executing any PAC instructions.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>
> > Link: https://linux-review.googlesource.com/id/Ibc41a5e6a76b275efbaa126b31119dc197b927a5
> > ---
> > This patch must be applied on top of Catalin's MTE series:
> > 
> >   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/arm64/linux for-next/mte
> > 
> > Alternatively the series with this patch on top may be
> > downloaded from Gerrit by following the link above.
...
> > +Enabling and disabling keys
> > +---------------------------
> > +
> > +The prctl PR_PAC_SET_ENABLED_KEYS allows the user program to control which
> > +PAC keys are enabled in a particular task. It takes two arguments, the
> > +first being a bitmask of PR_PAC_APIAKEY, PR_PAC_APIBKEY, PR_PAC_APDAKEY
> > +and PR_PAC_APDBKEY specifying which keys shall be affected by this prctl,
> > +and the second being a bitmask of the same bits specifying whether the key
> > +should be enabled or disabled. For example::
> > +
> > +  prctl(PR_PAC_SET_ENABLED_KEYS,
> > +        PR_PAC_APIAKEY | PR_PAC_APIBKEY | PR_PAC_APDAKEY | PR_PAC_APDBKEY,
> > +        PR_PAC_APIBKEY, 0, 0);
> > +
> > +disables all keys except the IB key.
> > +
> > +The main reason why this is useful is to enable a userspace ABI that uses PAC
> > +instructions to sign and authenticate function pointers and other pointers
> > +exposed outside of the function, while still allowing binaries conforming to
> > +the ABI to interoperate with legacy binaries that do not sign or authenticate
> > +pointers.
> > +
> > +The idea is that a dynamic loader or early startup code would issue this
> > +prctl very early after establishing that a process may load legacy binaries,
> > +but before executing any PAC instructions.

which keys are enabled by default when HWCAP_PACA is
set in AT_HWCAPS ? i think that would be useful to
point out here.

per process enable/disable was deemed costly to do when
pac support was added, did this change? (i'm happy if it
did, because even without a new PAC specific pointer ABI,
plain PAC-RET can cause problems if a process tries to do
its own DWARF unwinding but does not understand the new
opcode that toggles PAC status of the return address,
possibly in a third party library, so a way to opt-out of
PAC is useful. currently it's a kernel config option and
system wide on or off.)


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Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-14  5:51 [PATCH v2] arm64: Introduce prctl(PR_PAC_{SET,GET}_ENABLED_KEYS) Peter Collingbourne
2020-10-14  5:51 ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-17 17:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-17 17:29   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-17 18:14   ` Szabolcs Nagy [this message]
2020-11-17 18:14     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-11-17 18:40     ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-17 18:40       ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-17 17:48 ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 17:48   ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-17 18:17   ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-17 18:17     ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-17 18:39     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-11-17 18:39       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-11-18 12:33       ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-18 12:33         ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-18 13:31         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-11-18 13:31           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2020-11-18 13:37           ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-18 13:37             ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-18 17:19   ` Dave Martin
2020-11-18 17:19     ` Dave Martin
2020-11-18 17:31     ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-18 17:31       ` Florian Weimer
2020-11-18 18:18       ` Dave Martin
2020-11-18 18:18         ` Dave Martin
2020-11-18 12:25 ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-18 12:25   ` Catalin Marinas
2020-11-19  5:20   ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-19  5:20     ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-18 17:55 ` Dave Martin
2020-11-18 17:55   ` Dave Martin
2020-11-18 19:05   ` Peter Collingbourne
2020-11-18 19:05     ` Peter Collingbourne

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