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From: Sean Young <sean@mess.org>
To: Lino Sanfilippo <LinoSanfilippo@gmx.de>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	thierry.reding@gmail.com, lee.jones@linaro.org,
	nsaenzjulienne@suse.de, f.fainelli@gmail.com, rjui@broadcom.com,
	sbranden@broadcom.com, bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org, linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] pwm: bcm2835: Support apply function for atomic configuration
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:44:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201204084417.GA2154@gofer.mess.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4683237c-7b40-11ab-b3c0-f94a5dd39b4d@gmx.de>

Hi,

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:42:15AM +0100, Lino Sanfilippo wrote:
> > You're storing an unsigned long long (i.e. 64 bits) in an u32. If
> > you are sure that this won't discard relevant bits, please explain
> > this in a comment for the cursory reader.
> 
> What about an extra check then to make sure that the period has not been truncated,
> e.g:
> 
> 	value = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST_ULL(state->period, scaler);
> 
> 	/* dont accept a period that is too small or has been truncated */
> 	if ((value < PERIOD_MIN) ||
> 	    (value != DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST_ULL(state->period, scaler)))
> 		return -EINVAL;

Rather than doing another 64 bit division which is expensive (esp on 32 bit
kernels), you could assign to u64 and check:

	if (value < PERIOD || value > U32_MAX)
		return -EINVAL;

> > Also note that round_closed is probably wrong, as .apply() is
> > supposed to round down the period to the next achievable period. (But
> > fixing this has to do done in a separate patch.)
> 
> According to commit 11fc4edc4 rounding to the closest integer has been introduced
> to improve precision in case that the pwm controller is used by the pwm-ir-tx driver.
> I dont know how strong the requirement is to round down the period in apply(), but I
> can imagine that this may be a good reason to deviate from this rule.
> (CCing Sean Young who introduced DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST)

There was a problem where the carrier is incorrect for some IR hardware
which uses a carrier of 455kHz. With periods that small, rounding errors
do really matter and rounding down might cause problems.

A policy of rounding down the carrier is not the right thing to do
for pwm-ir-tx, and such a change will probably break pwm-ir-tx in some
edge cases.

Thanks

Sean

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Sean Young <sean@mess.org>
To: Lino Sanfilippo <LinoSanfilippo@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pwm@vger.kernel.org,
	f.fainelli@gmail.com, sbranden@broadcom.com, rjui@broadcom.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, thierry.reding@gmail.com,
	bcm-kernel-feedback-list@broadcom.com,
	linux-rpi-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	lee.jones@linaro.org, nsaenzjulienne@suse.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] pwm: bcm2835: Support apply function for atomic configuration
Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 08:44:17 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201204084417.GA2154@gofer.mess.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4683237c-7b40-11ab-b3c0-f94a5dd39b4d@gmx.de>

Hi,

On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:42:15AM +0100, Lino Sanfilippo wrote:
> > You're storing an unsigned long long (i.e. 64 bits) in an u32. If
> > you are sure that this won't discard relevant bits, please explain
> > this in a comment for the cursory reader.
> 
> What about an extra check then to make sure that the period has not been truncated,
> e.g:
> 
> 	value = DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST_ULL(state->period, scaler);
> 
> 	/* dont accept a period that is too small or has been truncated */
> 	if ((value < PERIOD_MIN) ||
> 	    (value != DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST_ULL(state->period, scaler)))
> 		return -EINVAL;

Rather than doing another 64 bit division which is expensive (esp on 32 bit
kernels), you could assign to u64 and check:

	if (value < PERIOD || value > U32_MAX)
		return -EINVAL;

> > Also note that round_closed is probably wrong, as .apply() is
> > supposed to round down the period to the next achievable period. (But
> > fixing this has to do done in a separate patch.)
> 
> According to commit 11fc4edc4 rounding to the closest integer has been introduced
> to improve precision in case that the pwm controller is used by the pwm-ir-tx driver.
> I dont know how strong the requirement is to round down the period in apply(), but I
> can imagine that this may be a good reason to deviate from this rule.
> (CCing Sean Young who introduced DIV_ROUND_CLOSEST)

There was a problem where the carrier is incorrect for some IR hardware
which uses a carrier of 455kHz. With periods that small, rounding errors
do really matter and rounding down might cause problems.

A policy of rounding down the carrier is not the right thing to do
for pwm-ir-tx, and such a change will probably break pwm-ir-tx in some
edge cases.

Thanks

Sean

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-04  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-28  0:55 [PATCH] pwm: bcm2835: Support apply function for atomic configuration Lino Sanfilippo
2020-11-28  0:55 ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-11-28  3:28 ` kernel test robot
2020-11-28  3:28   ` kernel test robot
2020-11-28 12:02   ` [PATCH v2] " Lino Sanfilippo
2020-11-28 12:02     ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-11-29 18:10     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-11-29 18:10       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-03 23:42       ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-12-03 23:42         ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-12-04  8:44         ` Sean Young [this message]
2020-12-04  8:44           ` Sean Young
2020-12-04  8:58           ` Sean Young
2020-12-04  8:58             ` Sean Young
2020-12-04 11:13           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 11:13             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 11:38             ` Sean Young
2020-12-04 11:38               ` Sean Young
2020-12-04 23:28               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 23:28                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-05 17:34                 ` Sean Young
2020-12-05 17:34                   ` Sean Young
2020-12-05 19:25                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-05 19:25                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-06 14:19                     ` Sean Young
2020-12-06 14:19                       ` Sean Young
2020-12-07  8:16                       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-07  8:16                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-07  9:43                         ` Sean Young
2020-12-07  9:43                           ` Sean Young
2020-12-07 13:52                           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-07 13:52                             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-07 15:29                             ` Thierry Reding
2020-12-07 15:29                               ` Thierry Reding
2020-12-07 21:46                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-07 21:46                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-07 18:18                             ` Sean Young
2020-12-07 18:18                               ` Sean Young
2020-12-08  0:00                             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-12-08  0:00                               ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-12-08  9:07                               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-08  9:07                                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 23:16           ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-12-04 23:16             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-12-04 11:21         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 11:21           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 11:40           ` Sean Young
2020-12-04 11:40             ` Sean Young
2020-12-04 21:55             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 21:55               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2020-12-04 22:44               ` Sean Young
2020-12-04 22:44                 ` Sean Young
2020-12-04 23:25           ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-12-04 23:25             ` Lino Sanfilippo
2020-11-28  3:36 ` [PATCH] " kernel test robot
2020-11-28  3:36   ` kernel test robot

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