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From: Lecopzer Chen <lecopzer@gmail.com>
To: will@kernel.org
Cc: lecopzer.chen@mediatek.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com, glider@google.com,
	vincenzo.frascino@arm.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	yj.chiang@mediatek.com, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	dvyukov@google.com, aryabinin@virtuozzo.com, linux@roeck-us.net,
	andreyknvl@google.com, lecopzer@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, gustavoars@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, rppt@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: kasan: don't populate vmalloc area for CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC
Date: Fri,  5 Feb 2021 00:37:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210204163721.91295-1-lecopzer@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210204150100.GE20815@willie-the-truck>


> On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 10:46:12PM +0800, Lecopzer Chen wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 06:32:49PM +0800, Lecopzer Chen wrote:
> > > > Linux support KAsan for VMALLOC since commit 3c5c3cfb9ef4da9
> > > > ("kasan: support backing vmalloc space with real shadow memory")
> > > >
> > > > Like how the MODULES_VADDR does now, just not to early populate
> > > > the VMALLOC_START between VMALLOC_END.
> > > > similarly, the kernel code mapping is now in the VMALLOC area and
> > > > should keep these area populated.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lecopzer Chen <lecopzer.chen@mediatek.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++-----
> > > >  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > index d8e66c78440e..39b218a64279 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > @@ -214,6 +214,7 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >  {
> > > >   u64 kimg_shadow_start, kimg_shadow_end;
> > > >   u64 mod_shadow_start, mod_shadow_end;
> > > > + u64 vmalloc_shadow_start, vmalloc_shadow_end;
> > > >   phys_addr_t pa_start, pa_end;
> > > >   u64 i;
> > > >
> > > > @@ -223,6 +224,9 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >   mod_shadow_start = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)MODULES_VADDR);
> > > >   mod_shadow_end = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)MODULES_END);
> > > >
> > > > + vmalloc_shadow_start = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)VMALLOC_START);
> > > > + vmalloc_shadow_end = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)VMALLOC_END);
> > > > +
> > > >   /*
> > > >    * We are going to perform proper setup of shadow memory.
> > > >    * At first we should unmap early shadow (clear_pgds() call below).
> > > > @@ -241,12 +245,21 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >
> > > >   kasan_populate_early_shadow(kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)PAGE_END),
> > > >                              (void *)mod_shadow_start);
> > > > - kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)kimg_shadow_end,
> > > > -                            (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
> > > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC)) {
> > >
> > > Do we really need yet another CONFIG option for KASAN? What's the use-case
> > > for *not* enabling this if you're already enabling one of the KASAN
> > > backends?
> >
> > As I know, KASAN_VMALLOC now only supports KASAN_GENERIC and also
> > KASAN_VMALLOC uses more memory to map real shadow memory (1/8 of vmalloc va).
>
> The shadow is allocated dynamically though, isn't it?

Yes, but It's still a cost.

> > There should be someone can enable KASAN_GENERIC but can't use VMALLOC
> > due to memory issue.
>
> That doesn't sound particularly realistic to me. The reason I'm pushing here
> is because I would _really_ like to move to VMAP stack unconditionally, and
> that would effectively force KASAN_VMALLOC to be set if KASAN is in use.
>
> So unless there's a really good reason not to do that, please can we make
> this unconditional for arm64? Pretty please?

I think it's fine since we have a good reason.
Also if someone have memory issue in KASAN_VMALLOC,
they can use SW_TAG, right?

However the SW_TAG/HW_TAG is not supported VMALLOC yet.
So the code would be like

	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC))
		/* explain the relationship between 
		 * KASAN_GENERIC and KASAN_VMALLOC in arm64
		 * XXX: because we want VMAP stack....
		 */
		kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)vmalloc_shadow_end,
					    (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
	else {
		kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)kimg_shadow_end,
					    (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
		if (kimg_shadow_start > mod_shadow_end)
			kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)mod_shadow_end,
						    (void *)kimg_shadow_start);
	}

and the arch/arm64/Kconfig will add
	select KASAN_VMALLOC if KASAN_GENERIC

Is this code same as your thought?

BRs,
Lecopzer


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From: Lecopzer Chen <lecopzer@gmail.com>
To: will@kernel.org
Cc: lecopzer.chen@mediatek.com, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com, glider@google.com,
	vincenzo.frascino@arm.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	yj.chiang@mediatek.com, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	dvyukov@google.com, aryabinin@virtuozzo.com, linux@roeck-us.net,
	andreyknvl@google.com, lecopzer@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, gustavoars@kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, rppt@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: kasan: don't populate vmalloc area for CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC
Date: Fri,  5 Feb 2021 00:37:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210204163721.91295-1-lecopzer@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210204150100.GE20815@willie-the-truck>


> On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 10:46:12PM +0800, Lecopzer Chen wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 06:32:49PM +0800, Lecopzer Chen wrote:
> > > > Linux support KAsan for VMALLOC since commit 3c5c3cfb9ef4da9
> > > > ("kasan: support backing vmalloc space with real shadow memory")
> > > >
> > > > Like how the MODULES_VADDR does now, just not to early populate
> > > > the VMALLOC_START between VMALLOC_END.
> > > > similarly, the kernel code mapping is now in the VMALLOC area and
> > > > should keep these area populated.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lecopzer Chen <lecopzer.chen@mediatek.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++-----
> > > >  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > index d8e66c78440e..39b218a64279 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > @@ -214,6 +214,7 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >  {
> > > >   u64 kimg_shadow_start, kimg_shadow_end;
> > > >   u64 mod_shadow_start, mod_shadow_end;
> > > > + u64 vmalloc_shadow_start, vmalloc_shadow_end;
> > > >   phys_addr_t pa_start, pa_end;
> > > >   u64 i;
> > > >
> > > > @@ -223,6 +224,9 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >   mod_shadow_start = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)MODULES_VADDR);
> > > >   mod_shadow_end = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)MODULES_END);
> > > >
> > > > + vmalloc_shadow_start = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)VMALLOC_START);
> > > > + vmalloc_shadow_end = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)VMALLOC_END);
> > > > +
> > > >   /*
> > > >    * We are going to perform proper setup of shadow memory.
> > > >    * At first we should unmap early shadow (clear_pgds() call below).
> > > > @@ -241,12 +245,21 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >
> > > >   kasan_populate_early_shadow(kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)PAGE_END),
> > > >                              (void *)mod_shadow_start);
> > > > - kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)kimg_shadow_end,
> > > > -                            (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
> > > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC)) {
> > >
> > > Do we really need yet another CONFIG option for KASAN? What's the use-case
> > > for *not* enabling this if you're already enabling one of the KASAN
> > > backends?
> >
> > As I know, KASAN_VMALLOC now only supports KASAN_GENERIC and also
> > KASAN_VMALLOC uses more memory to map real shadow memory (1/8 of vmalloc va).
>
> The shadow is allocated dynamically though, isn't it?

Yes, but It's still a cost.

> > There should be someone can enable KASAN_GENERIC but can't use VMALLOC
> > due to memory issue.
>
> That doesn't sound particularly realistic to me. The reason I'm pushing here
> is because I would _really_ like to move to VMAP stack unconditionally, and
> that would effectively force KASAN_VMALLOC to be set if KASAN is in use.
>
> So unless there's a really good reason not to do that, please can we make
> this unconditional for arm64? Pretty please?

I think it's fine since we have a good reason.
Also if someone have memory issue in KASAN_VMALLOC,
they can use SW_TAG, right?

However the SW_TAG/HW_TAG is not supported VMALLOC yet.
So the code would be like

	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC))
		/* explain the relationship between 
		 * KASAN_GENERIC and KASAN_VMALLOC in arm64
		 * XXX: because we want VMAP stack....
		 */
		kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)vmalloc_shadow_end,
					    (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
	else {
		kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)kimg_shadow_end,
					    (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
		if (kimg_shadow_start > mod_shadow_end)
			kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)mod_shadow_end,
						    (void *)kimg_shadow_start);
	}

and the arch/arm64/Kconfig will add
	select KASAN_VMALLOC if KASAN_GENERIC

Is this code same as your thought?

BRs,
Lecopzer


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From: Lecopzer Chen <lecopzer@gmail.com>
To: will@kernel.org
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, andreyknvl@google.com,
	ardb@kernel.org, aryabinin@virtuozzo.com, broonie@kernel.org,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	dvyukov@google.com, glider@google.com, gustavoars@kernel.org,
	kasan-dev@googlegroups.com, lecopzer.chen@mediatek.com,
	lecopzer@gmail.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux@roeck-us.net, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	rppt@kernel.org, tyhicks@linux.microsoft.com,
	vincenzo.frascino@arm.com, yj.chiang@mediatek.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: kasan: don't populate vmalloc area for CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC
Date: Fri,  5 Feb 2021 00:37:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210204163721.91295-1-lecopzer@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210204150100.GE20815@willie-the-truck>


> On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 10:46:12PM +0800, Lecopzer Chen wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 06:32:49PM +0800, Lecopzer Chen wrote:
> > > > Linux support KAsan for VMALLOC since commit 3c5c3cfb9ef4da9
> > > > ("kasan: support backing vmalloc space with real shadow memory")
> > > >
> > > > Like how the MODULES_VADDR does now, just not to early populate
> > > > the VMALLOC_START between VMALLOC_END.
> > > > similarly, the kernel code mapping is now in the VMALLOC area and
> > > > should keep these area populated.
> > > >
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lecopzer Chen <lecopzer.chen@mediatek.com>
> > > > ---
> > > >  arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++++-----
> > > >  1 file changed, 18 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > index d8e66c78440e..39b218a64279 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/kasan_init.c
> > > > @@ -214,6 +214,7 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >  {
> > > >   u64 kimg_shadow_start, kimg_shadow_end;
> > > >   u64 mod_shadow_start, mod_shadow_end;
> > > > + u64 vmalloc_shadow_start, vmalloc_shadow_end;
> > > >   phys_addr_t pa_start, pa_end;
> > > >   u64 i;
> > > >
> > > > @@ -223,6 +224,9 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >   mod_shadow_start = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)MODULES_VADDR);
> > > >   mod_shadow_end = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)MODULES_END);
> > > >
> > > > + vmalloc_shadow_start = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)VMALLOC_START);
> > > > + vmalloc_shadow_end = (u64)kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)VMALLOC_END);
> > > > +
> > > >   /*
> > > >    * We are going to perform proper setup of shadow memory.
> > > >    * At first we should unmap early shadow (clear_pgds() call below).
> > > > @@ -241,12 +245,21 @@ static void __init kasan_init_shadow(void)
> > > >
> > > >   kasan_populate_early_shadow(kasan_mem_to_shadow((void *)PAGE_END),
> > > >                              (void *)mod_shadow_start);
> > > > - kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)kimg_shadow_end,
> > > > -                            (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
> > > > + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC)) {
> > >
> > > Do we really need yet another CONFIG option for KASAN? What's the use-case
> > > for *not* enabling this if you're already enabling one of the KASAN
> > > backends?
> >
> > As I know, KASAN_VMALLOC now only supports KASAN_GENERIC and also
> > KASAN_VMALLOC uses more memory to map real shadow memory (1/8 of vmalloc va).
>
> The shadow is allocated dynamically though, isn't it?

Yes, but It's still a cost.

> > There should be someone can enable KASAN_GENERIC but can't use VMALLOC
> > due to memory issue.
>
> That doesn't sound particularly realistic to me. The reason I'm pushing here
> is because I would _really_ like to move to VMAP stack unconditionally, and
> that would effectively force KASAN_VMALLOC to be set if KASAN is in use.
>
> So unless there's a really good reason not to do that, please can we make
> this unconditional for arm64? Pretty please?

I think it's fine since we have a good reason.
Also if someone have memory issue in KASAN_VMALLOC,
they can use SW_TAG, right?

However the SW_TAG/HW_TAG is not supported VMALLOC yet.
So the code would be like

	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KASAN_GENERIC))
		/* explain the relationship between 
		 * KASAN_GENERIC and KASAN_VMALLOC in arm64
		 * XXX: because we want VMAP stack....
		 */
		kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)vmalloc_shadow_end,
					    (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
	else {
		kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)kimg_shadow_end,
					    (void *)KASAN_SHADOW_END);
		if (kimg_shadow_start > mod_shadow_end)
			kasan_populate_early_shadow((void *)mod_shadow_end,
						    (void *)kimg_shadow_start);
	}

and the arch/arm64/Kconfig will add
	select KASAN_VMALLOC if KASAN_GENERIC

Is this code same as your thought?

BRs,
Lecopzer



  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-04 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-09 10:32 [PATCH v2 0/4] arm64: kasan: support CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32 ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32 ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] arm64: kasan: don't populate vmalloc area for CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-03 18:37   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-02-03 18:37     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-02-03 18:37     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-02-04  6:21     ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04  6:21       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04  6:21       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 12:45   ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 12:45     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 12:45     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 14:46     ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 14:46       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 14:46       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 15:01       ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 15:01         ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 15:01         ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 16:37         ` Lecopzer Chen [this message]
2021-02-04 16:37           ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 16:37           ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-05 17:18           ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 17:18             ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 17:18             ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 17:30             ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-05 17:30               ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-05 17:30               ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-05 17:43               ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 17:43                 ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 17:43                 ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 20:50                 ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-05 20:50                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-05 20:50                   ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-02-05 18:10             ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-05 18:10               ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-05 18:10               ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] arm64: kasan: abstract _text and _end to KERNEL_START/END Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 12:46   ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 12:46     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 12:46     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 14:51     ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 14:51       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 14:51       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 14:55       ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 14:55         ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 14:55         ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 16:06         ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 16:06           ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 16:06           ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-05 17:02           ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 17:02             ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 17:02             ` Will Deacon
2021-01-09 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] arm64: Kconfig: support CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] arm64: kaslr: support randomized module area with KASAN_VMALLOC Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-09 10:32   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-27 23:04   ` Will Deacon
2021-01-27 23:04     ` Will Deacon
2021-01-27 23:04     ` Will Deacon
2021-01-28  8:53     ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-28  8:53       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-28  8:53       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-28 20:26       ` Will Deacon
2021-01-28 20:26         ` Will Deacon
2021-01-28 20:26         ` Will Deacon
2021-01-21 10:19 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] arm64: kasan: support CONFIG_KASAN_VMALLOC Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-21 10:19   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-21 10:19   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-01-21 17:44 ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-21 17:44   ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-21 17:44   ` Andrey Konovalov
2021-01-22 19:05   ` Will Deacon
2021-01-22 19:05     ` Will Deacon
2021-01-22 19:05     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-03 18:31 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-02-03 18:31   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-02-03 18:31   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-02-04 12:49 ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 12:49   ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 12:49   ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 15:53   ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 15:53     ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 15:53     ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 17:57     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 17:57       ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 17:57       ` Will Deacon
2021-02-04 18:32       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 18:41       ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 18:41         ` Lecopzer Chen
2021-02-04 18:41         ` Lecopzer Chen

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