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From: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/2] topology: Allow multiple entities to provide sched_freq_tick() callback
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:36:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210218163635.GA23622@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210218093304.3mt3o7kbeymn5ofl@vireshk-i7>

Hey,

On Thursday 18 Feb 2021 at 15:03:04 (+0530), Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 17-02-21, 00:24, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c
> > > index 1e47dfd465f8..47fca7376c93 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c
> > > @@ -240,7 +240,6 @@ static struct scale_freq_data amu_sfd = {
> > >  
> > >  static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  {
> > > -	bool invariant;
> > >  	int cpu;
> > >  
> > >  	/* We are already set since the last insmod of cpufreq driver */
> > > @@ -257,25 +256,10 @@ static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  
> > >  	cpumask_or(amu_fie_cpus, amu_fie_cpus, cpus);
> > >  
> > > -	invariant = topology_scale_freq_invariant();
> > > -
> > > -	/* We aren't fully invariant yet */
> > > -	if (!invariant && !cpumask_equal(amu_fie_cpus, cpu_present_mask))
> > > -		return;
> > > -
> > 
> > You still need these checks, otherwise you could end up with only part
> > of the CPUs setting a scale factor, when only part of the CPUs support
> > AMUs and there is no cpufreq support for FIE.
> 
> Another look at it and here goes another reason (hope I don't have
> another in-code comment somewhere else to kill this one) :)
> 
> We don't need to care for the reason you gave (which is a valid reason
> otherwise), as we are talking specifically about amu_fie_setup() here
> and it gets called from cpufreq policy-notifier. i.e. we won't support
> AMUs without cpufreq being there in the first place and the same goes
> for cppc-driver.
> 
> Does that sound reasonable ?
> 

Yes, we don't care if there is no cpufreq driver, as the use of AMUs won't
get initialised either. But we do care if there is a cpufreq driver that
does not support frequency invariance, which is the example above.

The intention with the patches that made cpufreq based invariance generic
a while back was for it to be present, seamlessly, for as many drivers as
possible, as a less than accurate invariance default method is still
better than nothing. So only a few drivers today don't support cpufreq
based FI, but it's not a guarantee that it will stay this way.

Hope it makes sense,
Ionela.

> -- 
> viresh

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/2] topology: Allow multiple entities to provide sched_freq_tick() callback
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:36:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210218163635.GA23622@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210218093304.3mt3o7kbeymn5ofl@vireshk-i7>

Hey,

On Thursday 18 Feb 2021 at 15:03:04 (+0530), Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 17-02-21, 00:24, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c b/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c
> > > index 1e47dfd465f8..47fca7376c93 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/kernel/topology.c
> > > @@ -240,7 +240,6 @@ static struct scale_freq_data amu_sfd = {
> > >  
> > >  static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  {
> > > -	bool invariant;
> > >  	int cpu;
> > >  
> > >  	/* We are already set since the last insmod of cpufreq driver */
> > > @@ -257,25 +256,10 @@ static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  
> > >  	cpumask_or(amu_fie_cpus, amu_fie_cpus, cpus);
> > >  
> > > -	invariant = topology_scale_freq_invariant();
> > > -
> > > -	/* We aren't fully invariant yet */
> > > -	if (!invariant && !cpumask_equal(amu_fie_cpus, cpu_present_mask))
> > > -		return;
> > > -
> > 
> > You still need these checks, otherwise you could end up with only part
> > of the CPUs setting a scale factor, when only part of the CPUs support
> > AMUs and there is no cpufreq support for FIE.
> 
> Another look at it and here goes another reason (hope I don't have
> another in-code comment somewhere else to kill this one) :)
> 
> We don't need to care for the reason you gave (which is a valid reason
> otherwise), as we are talking specifically about amu_fie_setup() here
> and it gets called from cpufreq policy-notifier. i.e. we won't support
> AMUs without cpufreq being there in the first place and the same goes
> for cppc-driver.
> 
> Does that sound reasonable ?
> 

Yes, we don't care if there is no cpufreq driver, as the use of AMUs won't
get initialised either. But we do care if there is a cpufreq driver that
does not support frequency invariance, which is the example above.

The intention with the patches that made cpufreq based invariance generic
a while back was for it to be present, seamlessly, for as many drivers as
possible, as a less than accurate invariance default method is still
better than nothing. So only a few drivers today don't support cpufreq
based FI, but it's not a guarantee that it will stay this way.

Hope it makes sense,
Ionela.

> -- 
> viresh

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-18 17:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-28 10:48 [PATCH V3 0/2] cpufreq: cppc: Add support for frequency invariance Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48 ` [PATCH V3 1/2] topology: Allow multiple entities to provide sched_freq_tick() callback Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-03 11:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-03 11:45     ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-05  9:14     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-05  9:14       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17  0:24       ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17  0:24         ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17  4:25         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17  4:25           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17 11:30           ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17 11:30             ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17 11:40             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17 11:40               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17 11:57               ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17 11:57                 ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-18  7:23                 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18  7:23                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18  9:33         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18  9:33           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18 16:36           ` Ionela Voinescu [this message]
2021-02-18 16:36             ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-19  4:58             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-19  4:58               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-19  9:44               ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-19  9:44                 ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-19  9:48                 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-19  9:48                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48 ` [PATCH V3 2/2] cpufreq: cppc: Add support for frequency invariance Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18 16:35   ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-18 16:35     ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-22 11:00     ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-22 11:00       ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-22 11:04       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-22 11:04         ` Viresh Kumar

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