From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Shashank Sharma <shashank.sharma@amd.com>
Cc: Deepak.Sharma@amd.com, aric.cyr@amd.com, Krunoslav.Kovac@amd.com,
mcasas@google.com, Bhawanpreet.Lakha@amd.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Shirish.S@amd.com,
sebastian@sebastianwick.net, hersenxs.wu@amd.com,
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, laurentiu.palcu@oss.nxp.com,
Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>,
Nicholas.Kazlauskas@amd.com, ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com,
Vitaly.Prosyak@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] A drm_plane API to support HDR planes
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:43:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210430124358.1f5ac6ec@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba369002-69e9-15d5-323c-1923ecdeda63@amd.com>
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:24:27 +0530
Shashank Sharma <shashank.sharma@amd.com> wrote:
> Assuming these details, A compositor will look for DRM color properties like these:
>
> 1. Degamma plane property : To make buffers linear for Gamut mapping
>
> 2. Gamut mapping plane property: To gamut map SRGB buffer to BT2020 colorspace
>
> 3. Color space conversion plane property: To convert from YCBCR->RGB
>
> 4. Tone mapping plane property: To tone map SDR buffer S2H and HDR buffer H2H
>
> 5. Gamma plane/CRTC property: to re-apply the output ST2084 curve
>
>
...
> *
> *
> *
> * ┌─────────────────┐ ┌─────────────────┐ ┌─────────────────┐ ┌────────────────┐
> * HDR 600 Nits│ │HDR 600 Nits │ │HDR600 │ │HDR500 │ │ HDR500
> * ────────► │ Degamma ├────────────►│ Color space ├──────────►│ Tone mapping ├──────►│ Gamma │
> * BT2020 │ OETF ST2084 │ BT2020 │ conversion │BT2020 │ H2H │BT2020 │ ST2084 │ BT2020
> * YCBCR420 │ │ YCBCR420 │ YCBCR->RGB │RGB88 │ 600->500 │RGB888 │ │ RGB888
> * Non Linear └─────────────────┘ Linear └─────────────────┘Linear └─────────────────┘Linear └────────────────┘ ST2084
> */
Hi Shashank,
I think you might have degamma and color model conversion reversed, or
is that a new thing in the HDR specs?
Usually the YCbCr/RGB conversion matrix applies to non-linear values
AFAIU.
There is also confusion with OETF vs. EOTF. I got that initially wrong
too. OETF is not just a name for inverse-EOTF but it is used in a
different context. Though here it seems to be just a typo.
OETF is inherent to a camera when it converts light into
electrical signals. EOTF is inherent to a monitor when it converts
electrical signals to light. Depending on what the electrical signals
have been defined to be in each step of a broadcasting chain, you might
need OETF or EOTF or their inverse or a different OETF or EOTF or their
inverse.
As we are talking about displays and likely assuming display-referred
content (not scene-referred content), we probably have no use for OETF,
but we could have several different EOTFs.
Thanks,
pq
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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Shashank Sharma <shashank.sharma@amd.com>
Cc: Deepak.Sharma@amd.com, Krunoslav.Kovac@amd.com,
mcasas@google.com, Bhawanpreet.Lakha@amd.com,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Shirish.S@amd.com,
sebastian@sebastianwick.net, hersenxs.wu@amd.com,
amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, laurentiu.palcu@oss.nxp.com,
Nicholas.Kazlauskas@amd.com, Vitaly.Prosyak@amd.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/3] A drm_plane API to support HDR planes
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2021 12:43:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210430124358.1f5ac6ec@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba369002-69e9-15d5-323c-1923ecdeda63@amd.com>
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 13:24:27 +0530
Shashank Sharma <shashank.sharma@amd.com> wrote:
> Assuming these details, A compositor will look for DRM color properties like these:
>
> 1. Degamma plane property : To make buffers linear for Gamut mapping
>
> 2. Gamut mapping plane property: To gamut map SRGB buffer to BT2020 colorspace
>
> 3. Color space conversion plane property: To convert from YCBCR->RGB
>
> 4. Tone mapping plane property: To tone map SDR buffer S2H and HDR buffer H2H
>
> 5. Gamma plane/CRTC property: to re-apply the output ST2084 curve
>
>
...
> *
> *
> *
> * ┌─────────────────┐ ┌─────────────────┐ ┌─────────────────┐ ┌────────────────┐
> * HDR 600 Nits│ │HDR 600 Nits │ │HDR600 │ │HDR500 │ │ HDR500
> * ────────► │ Degamma ├────────────►│ Color space ├──────────►│ Tone mapping ├──────►│ Gamma │
> * BT2020 │ OETF ST2084 │ BT2020 │ conversion │BT2020 │ H2H │BT2020 │ ST2084 │ BT2020
> * YCBCR420 │ │ YCBCR420 │ YCBCR->RGB │RGB88 │ 600->500 │RGB888 │ │ RGB888
> * Non Linear └─────────────────┘ Linear └─────────────────┘Linear └─────────────────┘Linear └────────────────┘ ST2084
> */
Hi Shashank,
I think you might have degamma and color model conversion reversed, or
is that a new thing in the HDR specs?
Usually the YCbCr/RGB conversion matrix applies to non-linear values
AFAIU.
There is also confusion with OETF vs. EOTF. I got that initially wrong
too. OETF is not just a name for inverse-EOTF but it is used in a
different context. Though here it seems to be just a typo.
OETF is inherent to a camera when it converts light into
electrical signals. EOTF is inherent to a monitor when it converts
electrical signals to light. Depending on what the electrical signals
have been defined to be in each step of a broadcasting chain, you might
need OETF or EOTF or their inverse or a different OETF or EOTF or their
inverse.
As we are talking about displays and likely assuming display-referred
content (not scene-referred content), we probably have no use for OETF,
but we could have several different EOTFs.
Thanks,
pq
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-26 17:38 [RFC PATCH 0/3] A drm_plane API to support HDR planes Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 17:38 ` Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] drm/color: Add RGB Color encodings Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 17:38 ` Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 18:07 ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-04-26 18:07 ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-04-26 18:56 ` Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 18:56 ` Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 19:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-04-26 19:08 ` Ville Syrjälä
2021-04-30 9:04 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-04-30 9:04 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-01 0:53 ` Sebastian Wick
2021-05-01 0:53 ` Sebastian Wick
2021-05-14 21:04 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-14 21:04 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-17 8:34 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-17 8:34 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-18 14:32 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-18 14:32 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-19 7:56 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-19 7:56 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-04-26 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] drm/color: Add Color transfer functions for HDR/SDR Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 17:38 ` Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 19:03 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-26 20:27 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-26 20:27 ` [RFC PATCH] drm/color: drm_get_color_transfer_function_name() can be static kernel test robot
2021-04-26 21:29 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] drm/color: Add Color transfer functions for HDR/SDR kernel test robot
2021-04-26 22:00 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-26 17:38 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] drm/color: Add sdr boost property Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 17:38 ` Harry Wentland
2021-04-26 20:38 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-26 21:45 ` kernel test robot
2021-04-26 21:45 ` [RFC PATCH] drm/color: drm_plane_create_sdr_white_level_property() can be static kernel test robot
2021-04-27 9:09 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] A drm_plane API to support HDR planes Daniel Vetter
2021-04-27 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2021-04-27 14:50 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-04-27 14:50 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-04-28 7:54 ` Shashank Sharma
2021-04-28 7:54 ` Shashank Sharma
2021-04-30 9:43 ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2021-04-30 9:43 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-04-30 10:39 ` Shashank Sharma
2021-04-30 10:39 ` Shashank Sharma
2021-05-14 21:01 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-14 21:01 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-14 21:05 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-14 21:05 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-17 8:57 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-17 8:57 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-17 16:48 ` Sebastian Wick
2021-05-17 16:48 ` Sebastian Wick
2021-05-17 19:39 ` Vitaly Prosyak
2021-05-17 19:39 ` Vitaly Prosyak
2021-05-18 7:56 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-18 7:56 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-18 14:19 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-18 14:19 ` Harry Wentland
2021-05-18 23:00 ` Sebastian Wick
2021-05-18 23:00 ` Sebastian Wick
2021-05-19 8:53 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-19 8:53 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-19 10:02 ` Pekka Paalanen
2021-05-19 10:02 ` Pekka Paalanen
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