From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64/mm: Remove [PUD|PMD]_TABLE_BIT from [pud|pmd]_bad()
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 11:59:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210514105901.GC855@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8023de56-e6d5-8df0-9920-35fe7dbde640@arm.com>
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 10:44:04AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 5/11/21 7:37 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:21:46AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> On 5/10/21 8:13 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 04:37:51PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>>> Semantics wise, [pud|pmd]_bad() have always implied that a given [PUD|PMD]
> >>>> entry does not have a pointer to the next level page table. This had been
> >>>> made clear in the commit a1c76574f345 ("arm64: mm: use *_sect to check for
> >>>> section maps"). Hence explicitly check for a table entry rather than just
> >>>> testing a single bit. This basically redefines [pud|pmd]_bad() in terms of
> >>>> [pud|pmd]_table() making the semantics clear.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> >>>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> >>>> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> >>>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> >>>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
> >>>
> >>> I have no strong feelings either way, so:
> >>>
> >>> Acked-by: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> >>>
> >>> ... that said, I think that the "bad" naming is unclear and misleading,
> >>> and it'd be really nice if we could clean that up treewide with
> >>> something clearer than "bad".
> >>
> >> Agreed, the name is misleading.
> >>
> >>> It does seem that would roughly fit p??_leaf() if we had
> >>
> >> But what if the platform does not support huge page aka leaf mapping
> >> at the given level ? Also a non table i.e bad entry might not always
> >> mean a leaf/section/huge page mapping, it could simply imply that the
> >> entry is not just pointing to next level and might be just in an bad
> >> intermediate or invalid state.
> >
> > Ah, so that's also covering swap entries, too? It's not entirely clear
> > to me what "bad intermediate or invalid state" means, because I assume
> > it's not arbitrary junk or this wouldn't be sound genrally.
>
> Intermediate states like swap, migration or probably even splitting THP.
> Though I am not really sure whether pxx_bad() only gets used for valid
> table or leaf entries i.e things which are mapped. Hence checking just
> for non table entry is better and even safer, than looking out for what
> other states the entry could be in.
I had a quick look through some of the uses and it seems the expectation
is that after a !pmd_bad(), the pmd is a table. The checks for
migration, huge page etc. are prior to the pmd_bad() check.
For this patch:
Acked-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64/mm: Remove [PUD|PMD]_TABLE_BIT from [pud|pmd]_bad()
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 11:59:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210514105901.GC855@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8023de56-e6d5-8df0-9920-35fe7dbde640@arm.com>
On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 10:44:04AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 5/11/21 7:37 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:21:46AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> On 5/10/21 8:13 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >>> On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 04:37:51PM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >>>> Semantics wise, [pud|pmd]_bad() have always implied that a given [PUD|PMD]
> >>>> entry does not have a pointer to the next level page table. This had been
> >>>> made clear in the commit a1c76574f345 ("arm64: mm: use *_sect to check for
> >>>> section maps"). Hence explicitly check for a table entry rather than just
> >>>> testing a single bit. This basically redefines [pud|pmd]_bad() in terms of
> >>>> [pud|pmd]_table() making the semantics clear.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> >>>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> >>>> Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> >>>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> >>>> Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
> >>>
> >>> I have no strong feelings either way, so:
> >>>
> >>> Acked-by: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
> >>>
> >>> ... that said, I think that the "bad" naming is unclear and misleading,
> >>> and it'd be really nice if we could clean that up treewide with
> >>> something clearer than "bad".
> >>
> >> Agreed, the name is misleading.
> >>
> >>> It does seem that would roughly fit p??_leaf() if we had
> >>
> >> But what if the platform does not support huge page aka leaf mapping
> >> at the given level ? Also a non table i.e bad entry might not always
> >> mean a leaf/section/huge page mapping, it could simply imply that the
> >> entry is not just pointing to next level and might be just in an bad
> >> intermediate or invalid state.
> >
> > Ah, so that's also covering swap entries, too? It's not entirely clear
> > to me what "bad intermediate or invalid state" means, because I assume
> > it's not arbitrary junk or this wouldn't be sound genrally.
>
> Intermediate states like swap, migration or probably even splitting THP.
> Though I am not really sure whether pxx_bad() only gets used for valid
> table or leaf entries i.e things which are mapped. Hence checking just
> for non table entry is better and even safer, than looking out for what
> other states the entry could be in.
I had a quick look through some of the uses and it seems the expectation
is that after a !pmd_bad(), the pmd is a table. The checks for
migration, huge page etc. are prior to the pmd_bad() check.
For this patch:
Acked-by: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-05-14 11:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-10 11:07 [PATCH] arm64/mm: Remove [PUD|PMD]_TABLE_BIT from [pud|pmd]_bad() Anshuman Khandual
2021-05-10 11:07 ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-05-10 14:43 ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-10 14:43 ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-11 3:51 ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-05-11 3:51 ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-05-11 14:07 ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-11 14:07 ` Mark Rutland
2021-05-13 5:14 ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-05-13 5:14 ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-05-14 10:59 ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2021-05-14 10:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-05-25 18:58 ` Will Deacon
2021-05-25 18:58 ` Will Deacon
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