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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: "HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁)" <k-hagio-ab@nec.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Dong Aisheng <dongas86@gmail.com>,
	Dong Aisheng <aisheng.dong@nxp.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 4/6] mm: rename the global section array to mem_sections
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:03:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210602030353.GA409140@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TYYPR01MB67775E2EC60DEE1195A49577DD3D9@TYYPR01MB6777.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>

On 06/02/21 at 01:11am, HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁) wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> > On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 10:40:09 +0200 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Thanks, i explained the reason during my last reply.
> > > > Andrew has already picked this patch to -mm tree.
> > >
> > > Just because it's in Andrews tree doesn't mean it will end up upstream. ;)
> > >
> > > Anyhow, no really strong opinion, it's simply unnecessary code churn
> > > that makes bisecting harder without real value IMHO.
> > 
> > I think it's a good change - mem_sections refers to multiple instances
> > of a mem_section.  Churn is a pain, but that's the price we pay for more
> > readable code.  And for having screwed it up originally ;)
> 
> From a makedumpfile/crash-utility viewpoint, I don't deny kernel improvement
> and probably the change will not be hard for them to support, but I'd like
> you to remember that the tool users will need to update them for the change.

As VIM user, I can understand Aisheng's feeling on the mem_section
variable which has the same symbol name as its type. Meanwhile it does
cause makedumpfile/crash having to be changed accordingly.

Maybe we can carry it when any essential change is needed in both kernel
and makedumpfile/crash around it.

> 
> The situation where we need to update the tools for new kernels is usual, but
> there are not many cases that they cannot even start session, and this change

By the way, Kazu, about a case starting session, could you be more specific
or rephrase? I may not get it clearly. Thanks.

> will cause it.  Personally I wonder the change is worth forcing users to update
> them.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kazu
> 


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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: "HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁)" <k-hagio-ab@nec.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Dong Aisheng <dongas86@gmail.com>,
	Dong Aisheng <aisheng.dong@nxp.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>,
	"kexec@lists.infradead.org" <kexec@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 4/6] mm: rename the global section array to mem_sections
Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2021 11:03:53 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210602030353.GA409140@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <TYYPR01MB67775E2EC60DEE1195A49577DD3D9@TYYPR01MB6777.jpnprd01.prod.outlook.com>

On 06/02/21 at 01:11am, HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁) wrote:
> -----Original Message-----
> > On Tue, 1 Jun 2021 10:40:09 +0200 David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > > Thanks, i explained the reason during my last reply.
> > > > Andrew has already picked this patch to -mm tree.
> > >
> > > Just because it's in Andrews tree doesn't mean it will end up upstream. ;)
> > >
> > > Anyhow, no really strong opinion, it's simply unnecessary code churn
> > > that makes bisecting harder without real value IMHO.
> > 
> > I think it's a good change - mem_sections refers to multiple instances
> > of a mem_section.  Churn is a pain, but that's the price we pay for more
> > readable code.  And for having screwed it up originally ;)
> 
> From a makedumpfile/crash-utility viewpoint, I don't deny kernel improvement
> and probably the change will not be hard for them to support, but I'd like
> you to remember that the tool users will need to update them for the change.

As VIM user, I can understand Aisheng's feeling on the mem_section
variable which has the same symbol name as its type. Meanwhile it does
cause makedumpfile/crash having to be changed accordingly.

Maybe we can carry it when any essential change is needed in both kernel
and makedumpfile/crash around it.

> 
> The situation where we need to update the tools for new kernels is usual, but
> there are not many cases that they cannot even start session, and this change

By the way, Kazu, about a case starting session, could you be more specific
or rephrase? I may not get it clearly. Thanks.

> will cause it.  Personally I wonder the change is worth forcing users to update
> them.
> 
> Thanks,
> Kazu
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-02  3:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-31  9:19 [PATCH V2 0/6] mm/sparse: a few minor fixes and improvements Dong Aisheng
2021-05-31  9:19 ` [PATCH V2 1/6] mm: drop SECTION_SHIFT in code comments Dong Aisheng
2021-05-31 18:08   ` Yu Zhao
2021-05-31  9:19 ` [PATCH V2 2/6] mm/sparse: free section usage memory in case populate_section_memmap failed Dong Aisheng
2021-05-31 15:06   ` Liam Howlett
2021-06-01  2:37     ` Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-31  9:19 ` [PATCH V2 3/6] mm/sparse: move mem_sections allocation out of memory_present() Dong Aisheng
2021-05-31 14:39   ` Liam Howlett
2021-06-01  2:38     ` Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-31  9:19 ` [PATCH V2 4/6] mm: rename the global section array to mem_sections Dong Aisheng
2021-05-31  9:19   ` Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:22   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-01  8:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-01  8:37     ` Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:37       ` Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:40       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-01  8:40         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-01  8:44         ` Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:44           ` Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01 23:52         ` Andrew Morton
2021-06-01 23:52           ` Andrew Morton
2021-06-02  1:11           ` HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁)
2021-06-02  1:11             ` HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁)
2021-06-02  2:26             ` Andrew Morton
2021-06-02  2:26               ` Andrew Morton
2021-06-02  3:03             ` Baoquan He [this message]
2021-06-02  3:03               ` Baoquan He
2021-06-02  5:02               ` HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁)
2021-06-02  5:02                 ` HAGIO KAZUHITO(萩尾 一仁)
2021-06-02  5:22                 ` Baoquan He
2021-06-02  5:22                   ` Baoquan He
2021-05-31  9:19 ` [PATCH V2 5/6] mm/page_alloc: improve memmap_pages dbg msg Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:23   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-05-31  9:19 ` [PATCH V2 6/6] mm/sparse: remove one duplicated #ifdef CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_EXTREME Dong Aisheng
2021-06-01  8:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-06-01  8:39     ` Dong Aisheng

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