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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] RfC: try improve native hotplug for pcie root ports
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2021 01:46:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211019014209-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211019052144.q4cy2qrvdh34rxml@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 07:21:44AM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:36:45AM -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 11, 2021 at 02:04:58PM +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Gerd Hoffmann (6):
> > >   pci: implement power state
> > >   pcie: implement slow power control for pcie root ports
> > >   pcie: add power indicator blink check
> > >   pcie: factor out pcie_cap_slot_unplug()
> > >   pcie: fast unplug when slot power is off
> > >   pcie: expire pending delete
> > 
> > So what's left to do here?
> > I'm guessing more testing?
> 
> Yes.  Maybe ask rh qe to run the patch set through their hotplug test
> suite (to avoid a apci-hotplug style disaster where qe found various
> issues after release)?

I'll poke around to see if they can help us... we'll need
a backport for that though.

> > I would also like to see a shorter timeout, maybe 100ms, so
> > that we are more responsive to guest changes in resending request.
> 
> I don't think it is a good idea to go for a shorter timeout given that
> the 5 seconds are in the specs and we want avoid a resent request being
> interpreted as cancel.
> It also wouldn't change anything at least for linux guests because linux
> is waiting those 5 seconds (with power indicator in blinking state).
> Only the reason for refusing 'device_del' changes from "5 secs not over
> yet" to "guest is busy processing the hotplug request".

First 5 seconds yes. But the retries afterwards?

> 
> We could consider to tackle the 5sec timeout on the guest side, i.e.
> have linux skip the 5sec wait in case the root port is virtual (should
> be easy to figure by checking the pci id).
> 
> take care,
>   Gerd

Yes ... do we want to control how long it blinks from hypervisor side?
And if we do then what? Shorten retry period?

-- 
MST



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-19  5:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-11 12:04 [PATCH 0/6] RfC: try improve native hotplug for pcie root ports Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-11 12:04 ` [PATCH 1/6] pci: implement power state Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-11 12:05 ` [PATCH 2/6] pcie: implement slow power control for pcie root ports Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-11 12:05 ` [PATCH 3/6] pcie: add power indicator blink check Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-15 11:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-15 14:52     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-11 12:05 ` [PATCH 4/6] pcie: factor out pcie_cap_slot_unplug() Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-11 12:05 ` [PATCH 5/6] pcie: fast unplug when slot power is off Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-12  5:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  6:46     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-11 12:05 ` [PATCH 6/6] pcie: expire pending delete Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-11 12:49   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  5:30     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-12  5:46       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-12  6:44         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-12  7:01           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-18 15:36 ` [PATCH 0/6] RfC: try improve native hotplug for pcie root ports Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-10-19  5:21   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-10-19  5:46     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-10-19  6:29       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-01 21:47         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-02 12:09           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-10 12:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-11  7:53   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-11  8:20     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-11  9:34       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-11 12:09         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-11 15:39           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-12 11:15             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2021-11-12 12:17               ` Igor Mammedov
2021-11-15 11:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-11  9:35       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-11-11 17:11         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-11 18:08           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-11-11 18:43             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-12 10:16               ` Gerd Hoffmann

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