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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Eli Cohen <elic@nvidia.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] virtio-net: enable big mode correctly
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 02:14:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211125021308-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEv+hehZazXRG9mavv=KZ76XfCrkeNqB8CPOnkwRF9cdHA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 03:11:58PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 3:00 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 02:05:47PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > When VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU feature is not negotiated, we assume a very
> > > large max_mtu. In this case, using small packet mode is not correct
> > > since it may breaks the networking when MTU is grater than
> > > ETH_DATA_LEN.
> > >
> > > To have a quick fix, simply enable the big packet mode when
> > > VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is not negotiated.
> >
> > This will slow down dpdk hosts which disable mergeable buffers
> > and send standard MTU sized packets.
> >
> > > We can do optimization on top.
> >
> > I don't think it works like this, increasing mtu
> > from guest >4k never worked,
> 
> Looking at add_recvbuf_small() it's actually GOOD_PACKET_LEN if I was not wrong.

OK, even more so then.

> > we can't regress everyone's
> > performance with a promise to maybe sometime bring it back.
> 
> So consider it never work before I wonder if we can assume a 1500 as
> max_mtu value instead of simply using MAX_MTU?
> 
> Thanks

You want to block guests from setting MTU to a value >GOOD_PACKET_LEN?
Maybe ... it will prevent sending large packets which did work ...
I'd tread carefully here, and I don't think this kind of thing is net
material.

> >
> > > Reported-by: Eli Cohen <elic@nvidia.com>
> > > Cc: Eli Cohen <elic@nvidia.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/net/virtio_net.c | 7 ++++---
> > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> > > index 7c43bfc1ce44..83ae3ef5eb11 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> > > @@ -3200,11 +3200,12 @@ static int virtnet_probe(struct virtio_device *vdev)
> > >               dev->mtu = mtu;
> > >               dev->max_mtu = mtu;
> > >
> > > -             /* TODO: size buffers correctly in this case. */
> > > -             if (dev->mtu > ETH_DATA_LEN)
> > > -                     vi->big_packets = true;
> > >       }
> > >
> > > +     /* TODO: size buffers correctly in this case. */
> > > +     if (dev->max_mtu > ETH_DATA_LEN)
> > > +             vi->big_packets = true;
> > > +
> > >       if (vi->any_header_sg)
> > >               dev->needed_headroom = vi->hdr_len;
> > >
> > > --
> > > 2.25.1
> >

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eli Cohen <elic@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] virtio-net: enable big mode correctly
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 02:14:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211125021308-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACGkMEv+hehZazXRG9mavv=KZ76XfCrkeNqB8CPOnkwRF9cdHA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 03:11:58PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 3:00 PM Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 02:05:47PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > When VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU feature is not negotiated, we assume a very
> > > large max_mtu. In this case, using small packet mode is not correct
> > > since it may breaks the networking when MTU is grater than
> > > ETH_DATA_LEN.
> > >
> > > To have a quick fix, simply enable the big packet mode when
> > > VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is not negotiated.
> >
> > This will slow down dpdk hosts which disable mergeable buffers
> > and send standard MTU sized packets.
> >
> > > We can do optimization on top.
> >
> > I don't think it works like this, increasing mtu
> > from guest >4k never worked,
> 
> Looking at add_recvbuf_small() it's actually GOOD_PACKET_LEN if I was not wrong.

OK, even more so then.

> > we can't regress everyone's
> > performance with a promise to maybe sometime bring it back.
> 
> So consider it never work before I wonder if we can assume a 1500 as
> max_mtu value instead of simply using MAX_MTU?
> 
> Thanks

You want to block guests from setting MTU to a value >GOOD_PACKET_LEN?
Maybe ... it will prevent sending large packets which did work ...
I'd tread carefully here, and I don't think this kind of thing is net
material.

> >
> > > Reported-by: Eli Cohen <elic@nvidia.com>
> > > Cc: Eli Cohen <elic@nvidia.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > >
> > > ---
> > >  drivers/net/virtio_net.c | 7 ++++---
> > >  1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> > > index 7c43bfc1ce44..83ae3ef5eb11 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c
> > > @@ -3200,11 +3200,12 @@ static int virtnet_probe(struct virtio_device *vdev)
> > >               dev->mtu = mtu;
> > >               dev->max_mtu = mtu;
> > >
> > > -             /* TODO: size buffers correctly in this case. */
> > > -             if (dev->mtu > ETH_DATA_LEN)
> > > -                     vi->big_packets = true;
> > >       }
> > >
> > > +     /* TODO: size buffers correctly in this case. */
> > > +     if (dev->max_mtu > ETH_DATA_LEN)
> > > +             vi->big_packets = true;
> > > +
> > >       if (vi->any_header_sg)
> > >               dev->needed_headroom = vi->hdr_len;
> > >
> > > --
> > > 2.25.1
> >


  reply	other threads:[~2021-11-25  7:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-25  6:05 [PATCH net] virtio-net: enable big mode correctly Jason Wang
2021-11-25  6:05 ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:00   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:11   ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:11     ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:14     ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2021-11-25  7:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:20       ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:20         ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:26         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:26           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:28           ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:28             ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  8:13             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  8:13               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:09 ` Eli Cohen
2021-11-25  7:15   ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:15     ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:20     ` Eli Cohen
2021-11-25  7:26       ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:26         ` Jason Wang
2021-11-25  7:31         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:31           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2021-11-25  7:41         ` Eli Cohen

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