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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: kexec@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH V3] panic: Move panic_print before kmsg dumpers
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:29:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220126032919.GB2086@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed18ba1e-4792-22c5-3ece-4d518a8a4a2d@igalia.com>

On 01/22/22 at 10:49am, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
> On 22/01/2022 07:31, Baoquan He wrote:
> > [...]
> > From my old POV, I took pstore as a necessity on handheld devices or
> > embeded system, e.g on Andriod. In that case, reserving crashkernel
> > memory to enable kdump to save kernel log, it sounds not so
> > cost-effective, since memory on those systems is usually not big.
> > I am also interested in any new use case where people deploy these
> > and why it's needed, to widen my view.
> 
> Hi Baoquan, that's great to hear. Indeed, I feel pstore is unfortunately
> not very used in non-embedded devices - if you see kdump/error-report
> userspace tooling, like on Red Hat/Fedora, Debian/Ubuntu and so on, they
> never rely on pstore. And the configuration is not straightforward for
> the users...I think that's a good thing to change, since pstore is much
> less resource consuming than kdump.
> But of course, not a discussion related to this patch specifically, just
> me thinking out loud heh
> 
> 
> > [...] 
> > It's my bad. My thought is panic_print and kmsg_dump can be coupled, but
> > they should decouple with panic_notifier. When panic_print is enabled,
> > we do not expect to execute panic_notifier? My personal opinion.
> > 
> > I missed the change at line 8, sorry for the caused misunderstanding. 
> > Now the chance of holding C-programmer-prize of the year comes back
> > again.
> > 
> >   void panic()
> >   {
> > 1         if (!_crash_kexec_post_notifiers && !panic_print) {
> > 2                 __crash_kexec(NULL);
> > 3                 smp_send_stop();
> > 4         } else {
> > 5                 crash_smp_send_stop();
> > 6         }
> >   
> >   	if (_crash_kexec_post_notifiers)
> > 8  		atomic_notifier_call_chain(&panic_notifier_list, 0, buf);
> > 9  	panic_print_sys_info(false);
> > 10  	kmsg_dump(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC);
> > 11  	if (_crash_kexec_post_notifiers || panic_print)
> > 12                 __crash_kexec(NULL);
> >   	...
> >   	debug_locks_off();
> >           console_flush_on_panic(CONSOLE_FLUSH_PENDING);
> >           panic_print_sys_info(true);
> 
> Hmm, yeah, I still don't think I'm a brilliant C programmer heh
> Again, in the code above, I can't see how we would reach
> "__crash_kexec(NULL)" after printing the extra info of panic_print, if
> we don't have panic notifiers enabled.

Missed this one.

Above code will allow any of _crash_kexec_post_notifiers and panic_print
to execute, then crash dump in L11.
   L5 -> L11

Since you have posted v4, let's ignore it anyway.

> 
> So, indeed the code currently don't really tightly couple "panic_print"
> with the panic notifiers. We could change that in another patch series,
> based on what Petr suggested in the filter thread (I know you're
> following there as well, thanks bu the way!), but for now, they are
> completely independent. My plan, following Petr suggestions here and if
> you agree, is to re-submit this patch with some changes, but in the end
> the code will allow users that have kdump enabled + panic_print
> -"crash_kexec_post_notifiers" to have "panic_print_sys_info(false)"
> executing before the "__crash_kexec(NULL)".
> 
> But also, we can add "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" and it will still
> work; finally, pstore is gonna be able to collect the logs from
> "panic_print" as well (the main purpose of this patch).
> 
> Once that's all resolved, my goal is to jump into the panic notifiers
> refactor suggested in the other thread. Let me know if you agree with
> these steps/plans, and I'll work them.

I am glad to see any improvement from refactory. As for panic_notifier,
I have expressed my concern and worry about the plan. So, if no any
new action added before kdump switching, it's welcomed.



WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: "Guilherme G. Piccoli" <gpiccoli@igalia.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	kernel@gpiccoli.net, senozhatsky@chromium.org,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, john.ogness@linutronix.de,
	feng.tang@intel.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	dyoung@redhat.com, keescook@chromium.org, anton@enomsg.org,
	ccross@android.com, tony.luck@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] panic: Move panic_print before kmsg dumpers
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 11:29:19 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220126032919.GB2086@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ed18ba1e-4792-22c5-3ece-4d518a8a4a2d@igalia.com>

On 01/22/22 at 10:49am, Guilherme G. Piccoli wrote:
> On 22/01/2022 07:31, Baoquan He wrote:
> > [...]
> > From my old POV, I took pstore as a necessity on handheld devices or
> > embeded system, e.g on Andriod. In that case, reserving crashkernel
> > memory to enable kdump to save kernel log, it sounds not so
> > cost-effective, since memory on those systems is usually not big.
> > I am also interested in any new use case where people deploy these
> > and why it's needed, to widen my view.
> 
> Hi Baoquan, that's great to hear. Indeed, I feel pstore is unfortunately
> not very used in non-embedded devices - if you see kdump/error-report
> userspace tooling, like on Red Hat/Fedora, Debian/Ubuntu and so on, they
> never rely on pstore. And the configuration is not straightforward for
> the users...I think that's a good thing to change, since pstore is much
> less resource consuming than kdump.
> But of course, not a discussion related to this patch specifically, just
> me thinking out loud heh
> 
> 
> > [...] 
> > It's my bad. My thought is panic_print and kmsg_dump can be coupled, but
> > they should decouple with panic_notifier. When panic_print is enabled,
> > we do not expect to execute panic_notifier? My personal opinion.
> > 
> > I missed the change at line 8, sorry for the caused misunderstanding. 
> > Now the chance of holding C-programmer-prize of the year comes back
> > again.
> > 
> >   void panic()
> >   {
> > 1         if (!_crash_kexec_post_notifiers && !panic_print) {
> > 2                 __crash_kexec(NULL);
> > 3                 smp_send_stop();
> > 4         } else {
> > 5                 crash_smp_send_stop();
> > 6         }
> >   
> >   	if (_crash_kexec_post_notifiers)
> > 8  		atomic_notifier_call_chain(&panic_notifier_list, 0, buf);
> > 9  	panic_print_sys_info(false);
> > 10  	kmsg_dump(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC);
> > 11  	if (_crash_kexec_post_notifiers || panic_print)
> > 12                 __crash_kexec(NULL);
> >   	...
> >   	debug_locks_off();
> >           console_flush_on_panic(CONSOLE_FLUSH_PENDING);
> >           panic_print_sys_info(true);
> 
> Hmm, yeah, I still don't think I'm a brilliant C programmer heh
> Again, in the code above, I can't see how we would reach
> "__crash_kexec(NULL)" after printing the extra info of panic_print, if
> we don't have panic notifiers enabled.

Missed this one.

Above code will allow any of _crash_kexec_post_notifiers and panic_print
to execute, then crash dump in L11.
   L5 -> L11

Since you have posted v4, let's ignore it anyway.

> 
> So, indeed the code currently don't really tightly couple "panic_print"
> with the panic notifiers. We could change that in another patch series,
> based on what Petr suggested in the filter thread (I know you're
> following there as well, thanks bu the way!), but for now, they are
> completely independent. My plan, following Petr suggestions here and if
> you agree, is to re-submit this patch with some changes, but in the end
> the code will allow users that have kdump enabled + panic_print
> -"crash_kexec_post_notifiers" to have "panic_print_sys_info(false)"
> executing before the "__crash_kexec(NULL)".
> 
> But also, we can add "crash_kexec_post_notifiers" and it will still
> work; finally, pstore is gonna be able to collect the logs from
> "panic_print" as well (the main purpose of this patch).
> 
> Once that's all resolved, my goal is to jump into the panic notifiers
> refactor suggested in the other thread. Let me know if you agree with
> these steps/plans, and I'll work them.

I am glad to see any improvement from refactory. As for panic_notifier,
I have expressed my concern and worry about the plan. So, if no any
new action added before kdump switching, it's welcomed.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26  3:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14 18:30 [PATCH V3] panic: Move panic_print before kmsg dumpers Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-14 18:30 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-17  3:33 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-17  3:33   ` Baoquan He
2022-01-17  6:13   ` Baoquan He
2022-01-17  6:13     ` Baoquan He
2022-01-17 12:58     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-17 12:58       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-19  7:13 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-19  7:13   ` Baoquan He
2022-01-19 12:57   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-19 12:57     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-19 15:48   ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-19 15:48     ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-19 16:03     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-19 16:03       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-20  9:39       ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-20  9:39         ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-20 15:51         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-20 15:51           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-20  8:51     ` Baoquan He
2022-01-20  8:51       ` Baoquan He
2022-01-20 21:36       ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-20 21:36         ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-21  2:31         ` Baoquan He
2022-01-21  2:31           ` Baoquan He
2022-01-21 13:17           ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-21 13:17             ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-22 10:31             ` Baoquan He
2022-01-22 10:31               ` Baoquan He
2022-01-22 13:49               ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-22 13:49                 ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-26  3:29                 ` Baoquan He [this message]
2022-01-26  3:29                   ` Baoquan He
2022-01-21 15:00           ` Michael Kelley
2022-01-21 15:00             ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-01-22  4:33             ` Baoquan He
2022-01-22  4:33               ` Baoquan He
2022-01-24 16:57               ` Michael Kelley
2022-01-24 16:57                 ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-01-26 11:51                 ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-26 11:51                   ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-29  8:00                   ` Baoquan He
2022-01-29  8:00                     ` Baoquan He
2022-02-02 17:43                     ` Michael Kelley
2022-02-02 17:43                       ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-02-07  8:33                       ` Baoquan He
2022-02-07  8:33                         ` Baoquan He
2022-01-28  9:03                 ` Baoquan He
2022-01-28  9:03                   ` Baoquan He
2022-01-28 18:24                   ` Michael Kelley
2022-01-28 18:24                     ` Michael Kelley (LINUX)
2022-01-29  7:42                     ` Baoquan He
2022-01-29  7:42                       ` Baoquan He
2022-01-19 18:38 ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-19 18:38   ` Petr Mladek
2022-01-19 19:51   ` Guilherme G. Piccoli
2022-01-19 19:51     ` Guilherme G. Piccoli

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