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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@metafoo.de>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Alexandru Ardelean <ardeleanalex@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/13] iio: core: Clarify the modes
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:53:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220214095308.42e52f34@xps13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220213184224.1644ddbc@jic23-huawei>

Hi Jonathan,

jic23@kernel.org wrote on Sun, 13 Feb 2022 18:42:24 +0000:

> On Mon,  7 Feb 2022 15:38:40 +0100
> Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com> wrote:
> 
> > As part of a previous discussion with Jonathan Cameron [1], it appeared
> > necessary to clarify the meaning of each mode so that new developers
> > could understand better what they should use or not use and when.
> > 
> > The idea of renaming these modes as been let aside because naming is a
> > big deal and requires a lot of thinking. So for now let's focus on
> > correctly explaining what each mode implies.
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iio/20210930165510.2295e6c4@jic23-huawei/
> > 
> > Suggested-by: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
> > Signed-off-by: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>  
> One trivial thing inline as a result of edits in v3.
> 
> Otherwise, I want to let this series sit a little longer and ideally get
> some eyes on the st_sensors patches.

Sure.

> 
> Jonathan
> 
> > ---
> >  include/linux/iio/iio.h | 49 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >  1 file changed, 48 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/include/linux/iio/iio.h b/include/linux/iio/iio.h
> > index 85cb924debd9..e383b0d96035 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/iio/iio.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/iio/iio.h
> > @@ -315,7 +315,54 @@ static inline bool iio_channel_has_available(const struct iio_chan_spec *chan,
> >  s64 iio_get_time_ns(const struct iio_dev *indio_dev);
> >  unsigned int iio_get_time_res(const struct iio_dev *indio_dev);
> >  
> > -/* Device operating modes */
> > +/**
> > + * Device operating modes
> > + * @INDIO_DIRECT_MODE: There is an access to either:
> > + * a) The last single value available for devices that do not provide
> > + *    on-demand reads.
> > + * b) A new value after performing an on-demand read otherwise.  
> 
> 
> > + * On most devices, this is a single-shot read. On some devices with data
> > + * streams without an 'on-demand' function, this might also be the 'last value'
> > + * feature.  
> 
> This block duplicates what you now have as a/b above. I can drop it whilst
> applying if nothing else comes up.

We can get rid of it indeed. Let's see what ST people have in mind
regarding the st_sensors patches.

> >  Above all, this mode internally means that we are not in any of the
> > + * other modes, and sysfs reads should work.
> > + * Device drivers should inform the core if they support this mode.
> > + * @INDIO_BUFFER_TRIGGERED: Common mode when dealing with kfifo buffers.
> > + * It indicates that an explicit trigger is required. This requests the core to
> > + * attach a poll function when enabling the buffer, which is indicated by the
> > + * _TRIGGERED suffix.
> > + * The core will ensure this mode is set when registering a triggered buffer
> > + * with iio_triggered_buffer_setup().
> > + * @INDIO_BUFFER_SOFTWARE: Another kfifo buffer mode, but not event triggered.
> > + * No poll function can be attached because there is no triggered infrastructure
> > + * we can use to cause capture. There is a kfifo that the driver will fill, but
> > + * not "only one scan at a time". Typically, hardware will have a buffer that
> > + * can hold multiple scans. Software may read one or more scans at a single time
> > + * and push the available data to a Kfifo. This means the core will not attach
> > + * any poll function when enabling the buffer.
> > + * The core will ensure this mode is set when registering a simple kfifo buffer
> > + * with devm_iio_kfifo_buffer_setup().
> > + * @INDIO_BUFFER_HARDWARE: For specific hardware, if unsure do not use this mode.
> > + * Same as above but this time the buffer is not a kfifo where we have direct
> > + * access to the data. Instead, the consumer driver must access the data through
> > + * non software visible channels (or DMA when there is no demux possible in
> > + * software)
> > + * The core will ensure this mode is set when registering a dmaengine buffer
> > + * with devm_iio_dmaengine_buffer_setup().
> > + * @INDIO_EVENT_TRIGGERED: Very unusual mode.
> > + * Triggers usually refer to an external event which will start data capture.
> > + * Here it is kind of the opposite as, a particular state of the data might
> > + * produce an event which can be considered as an event. We don't necessarily
> > + * have access to the data itself, but to the event produced. For example, this
> > + * can be a threshold detector. The internal path of this mode is very close to
> > + * the INDIO_BUFFER_TRIGGERED mode.
> > + * The core will ensure this mode is set when registering a triggered event.
> > + * @INDIO_HARDWARE_TRIGGERED: Very unusual mode.
> > + * Here, triggers can result in data capture and can be routed to multiple
> > + * hardware components, which make them close to regular triggers in the way
> > + * they must be managed by the core, but without the entire interrupts/poll
> > + * functions burden. Interrupts are irrelevant as the data flow is hardware
> > + * mediated and distributed.
> > + */
> >  #define INDIO_DIRECT_MODE		0x01
> >  #define INDIO_BUFFER_TRIGGERED		0x02
> >  #define INDIO_BUFFER_SOFTWARE		0x04  
> 


Thanks,
Miquèl

  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-14  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-07 14:38 [PATCH v3 00/13] Miscellaneous IIO core enhancements Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 01/13] iio: core: Enhance the kernel doc of modes and currentmodes iio_dev entries Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 02/13] iio: magnetometer: rm3100: Stop abusing the ->currentmode Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 03/13] iio: adc: stm32-dfsdm: Avoid dereferencing ->currentmode Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 04/13] iio: st_sensors: Return as early as possible from the _write_raw() callbacks Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 05/13] iio: st_sensors: Drop the protection on _avail functions Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 06/13] iio: st_sensors: Add a local lock for protecting odr Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 07/13] iio: st_sensors: Stop abusing mlock to ensure internal coherency Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 08/13] iio: st_sensors: Use iio_device_claim/release_direct_mode() when relevant Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 09/13] iio: Un-inline iio_buffer_enabled() Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 10/13] iio: core: Hide read accesses to iio_dev->currentmode Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 11/13] iio: core: Move the currentmode entry to the opaque structure Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 12/13] iio: core: Simplify the registration of kfifo buffers Miquel Raynal
2022-02-07 14:38 ` [PATCH v3 13/13] iio: core: Clarify the modes Miquel Raynal
2022-02-13 18:42   ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-02-14  8:53     ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2022-02-27 13:35       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-03-15 15:44         ` Miquel Raynal
2022-04-05  8:02           ` Miquel Raynal
2022-04-10 15:27             ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-04-11  7:12               ` Miquel Raynal

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