From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 3/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 11:27:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221107112736.mbdfflh6z37sijwg@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221104200530.3bbe18c6@kernel.org>
Hi Jakub,
On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 08:05:30PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 18:41:49 +0100 Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> > Add a new tagging protocol based on SKB extensions to convey the
> > information about the destination port to the MAC driver
>
> This is what METADATA_HW_PORT_MUX is for, you shouldn't have
> to allocate a piece of memory for every single packet.
Since this is the model that skb extensions propose and not something
that Maxime invented for this series, I presume that's not such a big
deal? What's more, couldn't this specific limitation of skb extensions
be addressed in a punctual way, via one-time calls to __skb_ext_alloc()
and fast path calls to __skb_ext_set()?
I'm unfamiliar to the concept of destination cache entries and even more
so to the concept of struct dst_entry * carrying metadata. I suppose the
latter were introduced for lack of space in struct sk_buff, to carry
metadata between layers that aren't L3/L4 (where normal dst_entry structs
are used)? What makes metadata dst's preferable to skb extensions?
The latter are more general; AFAIK they can be used between any layer
and any other layer, like for example between RX and TX in the
forwarding path. Side note, I am not exactly clear what are the lifetime
guarantees of a metadata dst entry, and if DSA's use would be 100% safe
(DSA is kind of L3, since it has an ETH_P_XDSA packet_type handler, not
an rx_handler).
More importantly, what happens if a DSA switch is used together with a
SRIOV-capable DSA master which already uses METADATA_HW_PORT_MUX for
PF-VF communication? (if I understood the commit message of 3fcece12bc1b
("net: store port/representator id in metadata_dst") correctly)
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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Maxime Chevallier <maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com>,
"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
"thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
Luka Perkov <luka.perkov@sartura.hr>,
Robert Marko <robert.marko@sartura.hr>,
Andy Gross <agross@kernel.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@somainline.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v8 3/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2022 11:27:37 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221107112736.mbdfflh6z37sijwg@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20221104200530.3bbe18c6@kernel.org>
Hi Jakub,
On Fri, Nov 04, 2022 at 08:05:30PM -0700, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Nov 2022 18:41:49 +0100 Maxime Chevallier wrote:
> > Add a new tagging protocol based on SKB extensions to convey the
> > information about the destination port to the MAC driver
>
> This is what METADATA_HW_PORT_MUX is for, you shouldn't have
> to allocate a piece of memory for every single packet.
Since this is the model that skb extensions propose and not something
that Maxime invented for this series, I presume that's not such a big
deal? What's more, couldn't this specific limitation of skb extensions
be addressed in a punctual way, via one-time calls to __skb_ext_alloc()
and fast path calls to __skb_ext_set()?
I'm unfamiliar to the concept of destination cache entries and even more
so to the concept of struct dst_entry * carrying metadata. I suppose the
latter were introduced for lack of space in struct sk_buff, to carry
metadata between layers that aren't L3/L4 (where normal dst_entry structs
are used)? What makes metadata dst's preferable to skb extensions?
The latter are more general; AFAIK they can be used between any layer
and any other layer, like for example between RX and TX in the
forwarding path. Side note, I am not exactly clear what are the lifetime
guarantees of a metadata dst entry, and if DSA's use would be 100% safe
(DSA is kind of L3, since it has an ETH_P_XDSA packet_type handler, not
an rx_handler).
More importantly, what happens if a DSA switch is used together with a
SRIOV-capable DSA master which already uses METADATA_HW_PORT_MUX for
PF-VF communication? (if I understood the commit message of 3fcece12bc1b
("net: store port/representator id in metadata_dst") correctly)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-11-07 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-11-04 17:41 [PATCH net-next v8 0/5] net: ipqess: introduce Qualcomm IPQESS driver Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` [PATCH net-next v8 1/5] net: dt-bindings: Introduce the Qualcomm IPQESS Ethernet controller Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` [PATCH net-next v8 2/5] net: ipqess: introduce the Qualcomm IPQESS driver Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` [PATCH net-next v8 3/5] net: dsa: add out-of-band tagging protocol Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-05 3:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-05 3:05 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-07 8:39 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-07 8:39 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-07 16:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-07 16:25 ` Jakub Kicinski
2022-11-08 12:22 ` Felix Fietkau
2022-11-08 12:22 ` Felix Fietkau
2022-11-15 9:29 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-15 9:29 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-15 11:50 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-15 11:50 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-23 12:34 ` Maxime Chevallier
2023-05-23 12:34 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-07 11:27 ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2022-11-07 11:27 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-07 12:51 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-07 12:51 ` Vladimir Oltean
[not found] ` <20221107084934.157becba@kernel.org>
2022-11-07 17:04 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-07 17:04 ` Vladimir Oltean
[not found] ` <20221107084535.61317862@kernel.org>
2022-11-07 17:28 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-07 17:28 ` Vladimir Oltean
[not found] ` <20221107102440.1aecdbdb@kernel.org>
2022-11-07 18:40 ` Florian Fainelli
2022-11-07 18:40 ` Florian Fainelli
2022-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Oltean
2022-11-11 23:17 ` kernel test robot
2022-11-04 17:41 ` [PATCH net-next v8 4/5] net: ipqess: Add out-of-band DSA tagging support Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` [PATCH net-next v8 5/5] ARM: dts: qcom: ipq4019: Add description for the IPQESS Ethernet controller Maxime Chevallier
2022-11-04 17:41 ` Maxime Chevallier
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