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From: Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>
To: John Ousterhout <ouster@cs.stanford.edu>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Upstream Homa?
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2022 13:25:40 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221110132540.44c9463c@hermes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXJAmzTGiURc7+Xcr5A09jX3O=VzrnUQMp0K09kkh9GMaDy4A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 10 Nov 2022 11:42:35 -0800
John Ousterhout <ouster@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:

> Several people at the netdev conference asked me if I was working to
> upstream the Homa transport protocol into the kernel. I have assumed
> that this is premature, given that there is not yet significant usage of
> Homa, but they encouraged me to start a discussion about upstreaming
> with the netdev community.
> 
> So, I'm sending this message to ask for advice about (a) what state
> Homa needs to reach before it would be appropriate to upstream it,
> and, (b) if/when that time is reached, what is the right way to go about it.
> Homa currently has about 13K lines of code, which I assume is far too
> large for a single patch set; at the same time, it's hard to envision a
> manageable first patch set with enough functionality to be useful by itself.
> 
> -John-

There are lots of experimental protocols already in Linux.
The usual upstream problem areas are:
 - coding style

 - compatibility layers
   developers don't care about code to run on older versions or other OS.
   
 - user API
   once you define it hard to change, need to get it right

 - tests
   is there a way to make sure it works on all platforms

Heuristics and bug fixing are fine, in fact having a wider community
will help.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-10 21:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-10 19:42 Upstream Homa? John Ousterhout
2022-11-10 21:25 ` Stephen Hemminger [this message]
2022-11-10 23:23   ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]     ` <CAGXJAmw=NY17=6TnDh0oV9WTmNkQCe9Q9F3Z=uGjG9x5NKn7TQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-11-11 19:10       ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-11-11 19:25       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-12  7:53         ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-13  6:25           ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13 17:10             ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-13 20:10               ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13 20:37                 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-14  5:37                   ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13  6:09         ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13  8:24           ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-13 18:53             ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-04 18:17 ` Jamal Hadi Salim

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