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From: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: John Ousterhout <ouster@cs.stanford.edu>,
	Stephen Hemminger <stephen@networkplumber.org>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Upstream Homa?
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2022 08:53:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y29RBxW69CtiML6I@nanopsycho> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y26huGkf50zPPCmf@lunn.ch>

Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 08:25:44PM CET, andrew@lunn.ch wrote:
>On Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 10:59:58AM -0800, John Ousterhout wrote:
>> The netlink and 32-bit kernel issues are new for me; I've done some digging to
>> learn more, but still have some questions.
>> 
>
>> * Is the intent that netlink replaces *all* uses of /proc and ioctl? Homa
>> currently uses ioctls on sockets for I/O (its APIs aren't sockets-compatible).

Why exactly it isn't sockets-comatible?


>> It looks like switching to netlink would double the number of system calls that
>> have to be invoked, which would be unfortunate given Homa's goal of getting the
>> lowest possible latency. It also looks like netlink might be awkward for
>> dumping large volumes of kernel data to user space (potential for buffer
>> overflow?).

Netlink is slow, you should use it for fast path. It is for
configuration and stats.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-12  7:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-10 19:42 Upstream Homa? John Ousterhout
2022-11-10 21:25 ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-11-10 23:23   ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]     ` <CAGXJAmw=NY17=6TnDh0oV9WTmNkQCe9Q9F3Z=uGjG9x5NKn7TQ@mail.gmail.com>
2022-11-11 19:10       ` Stephen Hemminger
2022-11-11 19:25       ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-12  7:53         ` Jiri Pirko [this message]
2022-11-13  6:25           ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13 17:10             ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-13 20:10               ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13 20:37                 ` Andrew Lunn
2022-11-14  5:37                   ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13  6:09         ` John Ousterhout
2022-11-13  8:24           ` Jiri Pirko
2022-11-13 18:53             ` Andrew Lunn
2022-12-04 18:17 ` Jamal Hadi Salim

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