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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anton Kuchin <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: "Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy" <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, yc-core@yandex-team.ru,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com, "Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Virtio-fs] [PATCH v3 1/1] vhost-user-fs: add migration type property
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 12:12:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230222121133-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11593688-7ca4-def3-6212-7c26faa4d1c6@yandex-team.ru>

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 07:05:47PM +0200, Anton Kuchin wrote:
> On 22/02/2023 18:51, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 06:49:10PM +0200, Anton Kuchin wrote:
> > > On 22/02/2023 17:14, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > > > On 22.02.23 17:25, Anton Kuchin wrote:
> > > > > > > > +static int vhost_user_fs_pre_save(void *opaque)
> > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > +    VHostUserFS *fs = opaque;
> > > > > > > > +    g_autofree char *path = object_get_canonical_path(OBJECT(fs));
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +    switch (fs->migration_type) {
> > > > > > > > +    case VHOST_USER_MIGRATION_TYPE_NONE:
> > > > > > > > +        error_report("Migration is blocked by device %s", path);
> > > > > > > > +        break;
> > > > > > > > +    case VHOST_USER_MIGRATION_TYPE_EXTERNAL:
> > > > > > > > +        return 0;
> > > > > > > > +    default:
> > > > > > > > +        error_report("Migration type '%s' is not
> > > > > > > > supported by device %s",
> > > > > > > > + VhostUserMigrationType_str(fs->migration_type), path);
> > > > > > > > +        break;
> > > > > > > > +    }
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +    return -1;
> > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > Should we also add this as .pre_load, to force user select
> > > > > > > correct migration_type on target too?
> > > > > > In fact, I would claim we only want pre_load.
> > > > > > When qemu is started on destination we know where it's migrated
> > > > > > from so this flag can be set.
> > > > > > When qemu is started on source we generally do not yet know so
> > > > > > we don't know whether it's safe to set this flag.
> > > > But destination is a "source" for next migration, so there shouldn't be
> > > > real difference.
> > > > The new property has ".realized_set_allowed = true", so, as I understand
> > > > it may be changed at any time, so that's not a problem.
> > > Yes, exactly. So destination's property sets not how it will handle this
> > > incoming
> > > migration but the future outgoing one.
> > 
> > How do you know where you are going to migrate though?
> > I think you don't.
> > Setting it on source is better since we know where we
> > are migrating from.
> 
> Yes, I don't know where I'm going to migrate to. This is why property
> affects only how source saves state on outgoing migration.

Um. I don't get the logic.


> > 
> > > > > This property selects if VM can migrate and if it can what should
> > > > > qemu put
> > > > > to the migration stream. So we select on source what type of
> > > > > migration is
> > > > > allowed for this VM, destination can't check anything at load time.
> > > > OK, so the new field "migration" regulates only outgoing migration and
> > > > do nothing for incoming. On incoming migration the migration stream
> > > > itself defines the type of device migration.
> > > > Worth mentioning in doc?
> > > Good point. I don't think this deserves a respin but if I have to send v4
> > > I'll include
> > > clarification in it.


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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Anton Kuchin <antonkuchin@yandex-team.ru>
Cc: "Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy" <vsementsov@yandex-team.ru>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, yc-core@yandex-team.ru,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	virtio-fs@redhat.com, "Eric Blake" <eblake@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/1] vhost-user-fs: add migration type property
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 12:12:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230222121133-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11593688-7ca4-def3-6212-7c26faa4d1c6@yandex-team.ru>

On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 07:05:47PM +0200, Anton Kuchin wrote:
> On 22/02/2023 18:51, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 06:49:10PM +0200, Anton Kuchin wrote:
> > > On 22/02/2023 17:14, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> > > > On 22.02.23 17:25, Anton Kuchin wrote:
> > > > > > > > +static int vhost_user_fs_pre_save(void *opaque)
> > > > > > > > +{
> > > > > > > > +    VHostUserFS *fs = opaque;
> > > > > > > > +    g_autofree char *path = object_get_canonical_path(OBJECT(fs));
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +    switch (fs->migration_type) {
> > > > > > > > +    case VHOST_USER_MIGRATION_TYPE_NONE:
> > > > > > > > +        error_report("Migration is blocked by device %s", path);
> > > > > > > > +        break;
> > > > > > > > +    case VHOST_USER_MIGRATION_TYPE_EXTERNAL:
> > > > > > > > +        return 0;
> > > > > > > > +    default:
> > > > > > > > +        error_report("Migration type '%s' is not
> > > > > > > > supported by device %s",
> > > > > > > > + VhostUserMigrationType_str(fs->migration_type), path);
> > > > > > > > +        break;
> > > > > > > > +    }
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > > > +    return -1;
> > > > > > > > +}
> > > > > > > Should we also add this as .pre_load, to force user select
> > > > > > > correct migration_type on target too?
> > > > > > In fact, I would claim we only want pre_load.
> > > > > > When qemu is started on destination we know where it's migrated
> > > > > > from so this flag can be set.
> > > > > > When qemu is started on source we generally do not yet know so
> > > > > > we don't know whether it's safe to set this flag.
> > > > But destination is a "source" for next migration, so there shouldn't be
> > > > real difference.
> > > > The new property has ".realized_set_allowed = true", so, as I understand
> > > > it may be changed at any time, so that's not a problem.
> > > Yes, exactly. So destination's property sets not how it will handle this
> > > incoming
> > > migration but the future outgoing one.
> > 
> > How do you know where you are going to migrate though?
> > I think you don't.
> > Setting it on source is better since we know where we
> > are migrating from.
> 
> Yes, I don't know where I'm going to migrate to. This is why property
> affects only how source saves state on outgoing migration.

Um. I don't get the logic.


> > 
> > > > > This property selects if VM can migrate and if it can what should
> > > > > qemu put
> > > > > to the migration stream. So we select on source what type of
> > > > > migration is
> > > > > allowed for this VM, destination can't check anything at load time.
> > > > OK, so the new field "migration" regulates only outgoing migration and
> > > > do nothing for incoming. On incoming migration the migration stream
> > > > itself defines the type of device migration.
> > > > Worth mentioning in doc?
> > > Good point. I don't think this deserves a respin but if I have to send v4
> > > I'll include
> > > clarification in it.



  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-22 17:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-17 17:00 [Virtio-fs] [PATCH v3 0/1] virtio-fs: implement option for stateless migration Anton Kuchin
2023-02-17 17:00 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-17 17:00 ` [Virtio-fs] [PATCH v3 1/1] vhost-user-fs: add migration type property Anton Kuchin
2023-02-17 17:00   ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-21 20:45   ` [Virtio-fs] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-02-21 20:45     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-02-22 12:20   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-22 12:20     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-22 12:43     ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 12:43       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 14:25       ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 14:25         ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 15:14         ` [Virtio-fs] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-22 15:14           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-22 16:43           ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 16:43             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 17:15             ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 17:15               ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 17:30               ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 17:30                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 16:49           ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 16:49             ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 16:51             ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 16:51               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 17:05               ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 17:05                 ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 17:12                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-02-22 17:12                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 18:25                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 18:25                     ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 20:21                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 20:21                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 20:50                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 20:50                         ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 15:40                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 15:40                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-23  7:36                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-23  7:36                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-23 21:24                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-02-23 21:24                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-02-24  4:14                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-24  4:14                             ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-27 10:19                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-27 10:19                               ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-24  8:47                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-24  8:47                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 14:30                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-28 14:30                               ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-28 14:57                               ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 14:57                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 17:59                                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-28 17:59                                   ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-28 21:24                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 21:24                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 14:03                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-03-01 14:03                                       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-03-01 14:46                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 14:46                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 15:40                                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 15:40                                           ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 15:52                                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 15:52                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 16:29                                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 16:29                                               ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 17:19                                               ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 17:19                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 19:42                                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 19:42                                               ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 15:07                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 15:07                                       ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 15:24                                       ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 15:24                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 16:04                                         ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 16:04                                           ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 17:17                                           ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 17:17                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 19:35                                             ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 19:35                                               ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 20:22                                               ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 20:22                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-06 20:55                                                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-06 20:55                                                   ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-06 21:53                                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-06 21:53                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-17 18:04                                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-17 18:04                                                       ` Anton Kuchin
2023-03-01 15:33                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-01 15:33                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-03-17 19:02                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-03-17 19:02                                       ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-28 19:18                                 ` [Virtio-fs] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-02-28 19:18                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2023-02-28 21:29                                   ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 21:29                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 21:54                                     ` [Virtio-fs] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-28 21:54                                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-02-22 14:21     ` [Virtio-fs] " Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 14:21       ` Anton Kuchin
2023-02-22 15:15       ` [Virtio-fs] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-22 15:15         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-22 15:20   ` [Virtio-fs] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2023-02-22 15:20     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy

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