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From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
To: "Köry Maincent" <kory.maincent@bootlin.com>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, glipus@gmail.com,
	maxime.chevallier@bootlin.com, vadim.fedorenko@linux.dev,
	richardcochran@gmail.com, gerhard@engleder-embedded.com,
	thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com, linux@armlinux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC v4 4/5] net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable.
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 12:28:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230516122818.1c3ff97b@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230515110432.63b94557@kmaincent-XPS-13-7390>

On Mon, 15 May 2023 11:04:32 +0200 Köry Maincent wrote:
> > I see, so there is a legit reason to abort. 
> > 
> > We could use one of the high error codes, then, to signal 
> > the "I didn't care, please carry on to the PHY" condition?
> > -ENOTSUPP?
> > 
> > I guess we can add a separate "please configure traps for PTP/NTP" 
> > NDO, if you prefer. Mostly an implementation detail.  
> 
> I am not as expert as you on the network stack therefore I am trying to follow
> and understand all the remarks. Please correct me if I say something wrong. It
> is interesting to understand all the complications that these changes bring.
> 
> To summary, what do you think is preferable for this patch series?
> - New ops for TS as suggested by Russell.
> 
> - Continue on this implementation and check that Vladimir A,B and C cases are
>   handled. Which imply, if I understand well, find a good way to deal with PTP
>   change trap (bit or new ndo ops), convert most drivers from IOCTL to NDO
>   beforehand. 
> 
> - Add MAC-DMA TS? It think it is needed as MAC-DMA TS seems already used and
>   different from simple MAC TS in term of quality, as described by Jakub.

These aren't really disjoint alternatives, we need MAC-DMA TS and we
need a way to direct all TS requests to the MAC driver. Whether we do
it via an NDO, flags or new ops is kind of up to you. Question of
aesthetics.

Perhaps to move forward it'd be good to rev the patches, and address
the feedback which is clear?

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-16 19:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-06 17:33 [PATCH net-next RFC v4 0/5] net: Make MAC/PHY time stamping selectable Köry Maincent
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 1/5] net: ethtool: Refactor identical get_ts_info implementations Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 13:16   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 13:49     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 16:56       ` Richard Cochran
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 2/5] net: Expose available time stamping layers to user space Köry Maincent
2023-04-07  1:46   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07  8:58     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-07 14:26       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07 14:44         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:58       ` Jacob Keller
2023-04-12 10:50     ` Michael Walle
2023-04-12 11:08       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 11:12         ` Michael Walle
2023-04-12 12:19         ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 20:36     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 20:50       ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-11 20:55         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-11 21:02           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 22:09             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 23:07               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:16                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-12 10:29                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-12 17:38                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:19                       ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 19:46                         ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-17 20:07                           ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-09-04 15:22                             ` Köry Maincent
2023-09-04 17:47                               ` Richard Cochran
2023-09-05 18:47                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-09-05 20:29                                   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-09-06  9:22                                     ` Köry Maincent
2023-09-07  9:29                                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-19 13:28                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-19 20:22                         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-22  3:56                           ` Zulkifli, Muhammad Husaini
2023-05-22 20:04                             ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-22 20:21                               ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-23  3:54                                 ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-17 22:01                   ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-17 22:13     ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-17 22:46       ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-18 23:23         ` Jacob Keller
2023-05-19 12:50           ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-19 13:50             ` Richard Cochran
2023-05-19 15:18               ` Andrew Lunn
2023-04-08 14:06   ` Richard Cochran
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 3/5] dt-bindings: net: phy: add timestamp preferred choice property Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 13:14   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-12 13:44     ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-29 17:42       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-02  9:10         ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:10           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 13:25             ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:56               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 14:22                 ` Köry Maincent
2023-04-12 14:14   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 4/5] net: Let the active time stamping layer be selectable Köry Maincent
2023-04-06 20:04   ` kernel test robot
2023-04-07  1:02   ` kernel test robot
2023-04-07  1:47   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-04-07  2:04   ` kernel test robot
2023-04-29 17:58   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-02 11:05     ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-11 13:48       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 15:36         ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 15:56           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 16:25             ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 20:54               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:08                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-11 23:18                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-11 23:35                     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-15  9:04                       ` Köry Maincent
2023-05-16 19:28                         ` Jakub Kicinski [this message]
2023-05-11 21:06               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-11 22:54                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-17 22:19               ` Jacob Keller
2023-04-06 17:33 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 5/5] net: fix up drivers WRT phy time stamping Köry Maincent
2023-04-06 17:59 ` [PATCH net-next RFC v4 0/5] net: Make MAC/PHY time stamping selectable Köry Maincent

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