From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Mike Christie <michael.christie@oracle.com>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com,
Linux kernel regressions list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
hch@infradead.org, stefanha@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com,
mst@redhat.com, sgarzare@redhat.com,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 8/8] vhost: use vhost_tasks for worker threads
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 19:09:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230517170917.GA17016@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mt24ox2d.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
On 05/16, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
>
> >> There is this bit in complete_signal when SIGKILL is delivered to any
> >> thread in the process.
> >>
> >> t = p;
> >> do {
> >> task_clear_jobctl_pending(t, JOBCTL_PENDING_MASK);
> >> sigaddset(&t->pending.signal, SIGKILL);
> >> signal_wake_up(t, 1);
> >> } while_each_thread(p, t);
> >
> > That is why the latest version adds try_set_pending_sigkill(). No, no,
> > it is not that I think this is a good idea.
>
> I see that try_set_pending_sigkill in the patch now.
>
> That try_set_pending_sigkill just keeps the process from reporting
> that it has exited, and extend the process exit indefinitely.
>
> SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT has already been set, so the KILL signal was
> already delivered and the process is exiting.
Agreed, that is why I said I don't think try_set_pending_sigkill() is
a good idea.
And again, the same is true for the threads created by
create_io_thread(). get_signal() from io_uring/ can dequeue a pending
SIGKILL and return, but that is all.
> >> For clarity that sigaddset(&t->pending.signal, SIGKILL); Really isn't
> >> setting SIGKILL pending,
> >
> > Hmm. it does? Nevermind.
>
> The point is that what try_set_pending_sigkill in the patch is doing is
> keeping the "you are dead exit now" flag, from being set.
>
> That flag is what fatal_signal_pending always tests, because we can only
> know if a fatal signal is pending if we have performed short circuit
> delivery on the signal.
>
> The result is the effects of the change are mostly what people expect.
> The difference the semantics being changed aren't what people think they
> are.
>
> AKA process exit is being ignored for the thread, not that SIGKILL is
> being blocked.
Sorry, I don't understand. I just tried to say that
sigaddset(&t->pending.signal, SIGKILL) really sets SIGKILL pending.
Nevermind.
> > Although I never understood this logic.
I meant I never really liked how io-threads play with signals,
> I can't even understand the usage
> > of lower_32_bits() in create_io_thread().
>
> As far as I can tell lower_32_bits(flags) is just defensive programming
Cough. but this is ugly. Or I missed something.
> or have just populated .flags directly.
Exactly,
> Then .exit_signal
> could have been set to 0.
Exactly.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK. It doesn't matter. I tried to read the whole thread and got lost.
IIUC, Mike is going to send the next version? So I think we can delay
the further discussions until then.
Oleg.
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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
Linux kernel regressions list <regressions@lists.linux.dev>,
mst@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
konrad.wilk@oracle.com, Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, hch@infradead.org,
stefanha@redhat.com, nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 8/8] vhost: use vhost_tasks for worker threads
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 19:09:18 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230517170917.GA17016@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mt24ox2d.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org>
On 05/16, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>
> Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
>
> >> There is this bit in complete_signal when SIGKILL is delivered to any
> >> thread in the process.
> >>
> >> t = p;
> >> do {
> >> task_clear_jobctl_pending(t, JOBCTL_PENDING_MASK);
> >> sigaddset(&t->pending.signal, SIGKILL);
> >> signal_wake_up(t, 1);
> >> } while_each_thread(p, t);
> >
> > That is why the latest version adds try_set_pending_sigkill(). No, no,
> > it is not that I think this is a good idea.
>
> I see that try_set_pending_sigkill in the patch now.
>
> That try_set_pending_sigkill just keeps the process from reporting
> that it has exited, and extend the process exit indefinitely.
>
> SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT has already been set, so the KILL signal was
> already delivered and the process is exiting.
Agreed, that is why I said I don't think try_set_pending_sigkill() is
a good idea.
And again, the same is true for the threads created by
create_io_thread(). get_signal() from io_uring/ can dequeue a pending
SIGKILL and return, but that is all.
> >> For clarity that sigaddset(&t->pending.signal, SIGKILL); Really isn't
> >> setting SIGKILL pending,
> >
> > Hmm. it does? Nevermind.
>
> The point is that what try_set_pending_sigkill in the patch is doing is
> keeping the "you are dead exit now" flag, from being set.
>
> That flag is what fatal_signal_pending always tests, because we can only
> know if a fatal signal is pending if we have performed short circuit
> delivery on the signal.
>
> The result is the effects of the change are mostly what people expect.
> The difference the semantics being changed aren't what people think they
> are.
>
> AKA process exit is being ignored for the thread, not that SIGKILL is
> being blocked.
Sorry, I don't understand. I just tried to say that
sigaddset(&t->pending.signal, SIGKILL) really sets SIGKILL pending.
Nevermind.
> > Although I never understood this logic.
I meant I never really liked how io-threads play with signals,
> I can't even understand the usage
> > of lower_32_bits() in create_io_thread().
>
> As far as I can tell lower_32_bits(flags) is just defensive programming
Cough. but this is ugly. Or I missed something.
> or have just populated .flags directly.
Exactly,
> Then .exit_signal
> could have been set to 0.
Exactly.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
OK. It doesn't matter. I tried to read the whole thread and got lost.
IIUC, Mike is going to send the next version? So I think we can delay
the further discussions until then.
Oleg.
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2023-02-02 23:25 [PATCH v11 0/8] Use copy_process in vhost layer Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] fork: Make IO worker options flag based Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-03 0:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-03 0:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] fork/vm: Move common PF_IO_WORKER behavior to new flag Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] fork: add USER_WORKER flag to not dup/clone files Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-03 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-03 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] fork: Add USER_WORKER flag to ignore signals Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-03 0:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-03 0:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-05 16:06 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-05 16:06 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] fork: allow kernel code to call copy_process Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] vhost_task: Allow vhost layer to use copy_process Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-03 0:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-03 0:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] vhost: move worker thread fields to new struct Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] vhost: use vhost_tasks for worker threads Mike Christie
2023-02-02 23:25 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-05 13:40 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-05-05 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-05 18:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-05 22:37 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-05 22:37 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-06 1:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-06 1:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-08 17:13 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-09 8:09 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-05-09 8:17 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-05-13 12:39 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-05-13 12:39 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-05-13 15:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-13 15:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 14:23 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-15 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 15:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 15:52 ` Jens Axboe
2023-05-15 15:52 ` Jens Axboe
2023-05-15 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 15:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 22:23 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-15 22:23 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-15 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-15 22:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-16 3:53 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 3:53 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 13:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 13:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 13:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 13:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 15:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-16 15:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-16 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-16 20:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-16 20:12 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-17 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2023-05-17 17:09 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-17 18:22 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-17 18:22 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 8:39 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-16 16:24 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 16:24 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 16:44 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-19 12:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] vhost_tasks: Use CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND Christian Brauner
2023-06-01 7:58 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-06-01 7:58 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-06-01 10:18 ` Nicolas Dichtel
2023-06-01 10:47 ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-01 11:29 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-06-01 11:29 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-06-01 12:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-01 12:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-06-01 16:10 ` Mike Christie
2023-06-01 16:10 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-16 14:06 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] vhost: use vhost_tasks for worker threads Linux regression tracking #adding (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-05-26 9:03 ` Linux regression tracking #update (Thorsten Leemhuis)
2023-06-02 11:38 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2023-07-20 13:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-20 13:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-23 4:03 ` michael.christie
2023-07-23 4:03 ` michael.christie
2023-07-23 9:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-07-23 9:31 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10 18:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-10 18:57 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-11 18:51 ` Mike Christie
2023-08-11 18:51 ` Mike Christie
2023-08-13 19:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-13 19:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-08-14 3:13 ` michael.christie
2023-08-14 3:13 ` michael.christie
2023-02-07 8:19 ` [PATCH v11 0/8] Use copy_process in vhost layer Christian Brauner
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-05-18 0:09 [RFC PATCH 0/8] vhost_tasks: Use CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] signal: Dequeue SIGKILL even if SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT/group_exec_task is set Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 2:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 2:34 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 3:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 3:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 15:21 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 15:21 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 16:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 16:25 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 16:42 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 16:42 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 17:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 17:04 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 18:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 18:28 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 22:57 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 22:57 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-19 4:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-19 4:16 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-19 23:24 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-19 23:24 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-22 13:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-22 13:30 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 8:08 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 15:27 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 15:27 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 17:07 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 18:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 18:12 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 18:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 18:23 ` Oleg Nesterov
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] vhost/vhost_task: Hook vhost layer into signal handler Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-18 0:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2023-05-18 1:01 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 1:01 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 8:16 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] fork/vhost_task: Switch to CLONE_THREAD and CLONE_SIGHAND Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 8:18 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] vhost-net: Move vhost_net_open Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] vhost: Add callback that stops new work and waits on running ones Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 14:18 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 15:03 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 15:03 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 15:09 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 18:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 18:38 ` Eric W. Biederman
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] vhost-scsi: Add callback to stop and wait on works Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] vhost-net: " Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] fork/vhost_task: remove no_files Mike Christie
2023-05-18 0:09 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 1:04 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 1:04 ` Mike Christie
2023-05-18 12:31 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-18 15:30 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-18 23:14 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-19 7:26 ` kernel test robot
2023-05-18 8:25 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] vhost_tasks: Use CLONE_THREAD/SIGHAND Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 8:40 ` Christian Brauner
2023-05-18 14:30 ` Christian Brauner
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